Following Potential 2025 Draftees

[Handlogten's Heros]

He's a beefy Ty Jerome

Not sure that is the insult you want it to be. Ty put up 23/6 per36 this year on 64% TS. Big beefy Ty Jerome may not be a bad thing at all.

 

[seattlejazzfan]

Not sure that is the insult you want it to be. Ty put up 23/6 per36 this year on 64% TS. Big beefy Ty Jerome may not be a bad thing at all.

not bad at all - every team can use a Ty Jerome, just not a guy you draft at 5. you can get those guys - Jerome himself being a prime example - much later in the draft. you don't tank so you can draft Ty Jerome.

 

[Handlogten's Heros]

not bad at all, just not a guy you draft at 5. you can get those guys - Jerome himself being a prime example - much later in the draft.

A bigger stronger version of that guy might be closer to an all-star than 6th man of the year type.

 

[seattlejazzfan]

A bigger stronger version of that guy might be closer to an all-star than 6th man of the year type.

bigger/stronger in this case also means slower, not as athletic. By saying he's a bigger Ty Jerome, Cy basically just described Sam Merrill. Also, a very useful player, but not a guy you tank for.

 

[Ferguson_Mellochill]

I assume this has been brought up before, but I'm watching a lot of Kon and I keep seeing Joe Ingles.

He's got more paint game and plays off of two feet more than Ingles, but rolewise yeah, he's that big guard who can playmake and shoot.

 

[Ferguson_Mellochill]

There's been some buzz that Drake Powell has looked good in predraft workouts.


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[Handlogten's Heros]

There are "buy this not that" versions of a bunch of these guys in the 3-7 range.

Tre - Cam Thomas
Kon - Thicc Jerome
Fears - Tre Mann
VJ - Gary Harris

Not sure why some get the false ceiling and others don't.

 

[HadAnEffectHere]

I assume this has been brought up before, but I'm watching a lot of Kon and I keep seeing Joe Ingles.

Ehhhh, there's some comparison in that they're both great shooters who can dribble and pass a bit, but Kon is probably the best spotup shooting prospect I've ever seen while I remember Ingles being often way too hesitant to pull the trigger on spot-ups. Kon meanwhile isn't currently close to Ingles as an off the dribble shooter (but maybe he can get there)

Kon's shot prep on spot-ups is just obscene. Some of the best shot prep of any player ever.... Just don't think he can defend in the NBA.

 

[seattlejazzfan]

There are "buy this not that" versions of a bunch of these guys in the 3-7 range.

Tre - Cam Thomas
Kon - Thicc Jerome
Fears - Tre Mann
VJ - Gary Harris

Not sure why some get the false ceiling and others don't.

how many white wings, 6'4 to 6'7 in shoes who are drafted primarily as shooters, and aren't functional athletes have become all-stars in the last 25 years?

first off the top of my head is Kyle Korver who made one all-star team during a season he averaged 12 ppg. he was a role player on a great (regular season) team who made an all-star team.

reality is, those guys become specialists, not stars.

 

[Handlogten's Heros]

how many white wings, 6'4 to 6'7 in shoes who are drafted primarily as shooters, and aren't functional athletes have become all-stars in the last 25 years?

first off the top of my head is Kyle Korver who made one all-star team during a season he averaged 12 ppg.

Adding white to the qualifiers is hilarious. Have fun.

 

[KqWIN]

There's got to be a rule where the by the 7th or 8th comparison you gotta go cross racial on a white guy.

 

[KqWIN]

There are "buy this not that" versions of a bunch of these guys in the 3-7 range.

Tre - Cam Thomas
Kon - Thicc Jerome
Fears - Tre Mann
VJ - Gary Harris

Not sure why some get the false ceiling and others don't.

I get that Kon can run some PnR....he's not a point god like Jerome.

 

[Handlogten's Heros]

There's got to be a rule where the by the 7th or 8th comparison you gotta go cross racial on a white guy.

Nope... literally the first thing you should list when doing comps is white.

 

[seattlejazzfan]

Adding white to the qualifiers is hilarious. Have fun.

black guys are better athletes. welcome to real life.

the fact is, it's not hard to find black guys with those same qualifiers i mentioned (except the athleticism because they often have it) who have been stars. ftr, the only reason that was a qualifier is for guys like Grayson Allen, who is a great athlete on paper, but in games it's not really part of his game.

 

[Handlogten's Heros]

I get that Kon can run some PnR....he's not a point god like Jerome.

Its not my comp. I used it cuz it was thrown my way. Husky Horny or some version of Bane/Booker/Klay on the high end outcomes is where I'd guess.

There are no perfect comps but if you want slightly lesser versions of the players you think guys are (especially if we are doing the false ceiling thing) you will find guys drafted in the late/mid first that work.

 

[HadAnEffectHere]

Kon is a really interesting offensive weapon in that he's thicc enough to actually set good screens one day to generate switches and this would be super helpful for his team because his speed on his spotup jumper is so fast that then the defender would be basically unable to provide help. Very much a player who at his best could basically take the best perimeter defender of the opposing team out of the way.

Outside of his spotup shooting and screening, I'm more skeptical.

 

[Handlogten's Heros]

black guys are better athletes. welcome to reality.

I'm aware but there are also white guys who are good athletes and black guys who are bad athletes. Shocker I know. Just hilarious that it was literally the first qualifier... let me go see if I can run the BART on that filter lol.

 

[seattlejazzfan]

I'm aware but there are also white guys who are good athletes and black guys who are bad athletes. Shocker I know. Just hilarious that it was literally the first qualifier... let me go see if I can run the BART on that filter lol.

right, but Kon isn't a good athlete, so he fits.

 

[HadAnEffectHere]

Kon being white doesn't really matter, it's just that he's unathletic that matters?

 

[Handlogten's Heros]

right, but Kon isn't a good athlete, so he fits.

I mean but then I can't say Klay because he has a black dad or Tyler Herro because he thinks he's black.