I don’t think people are really remembering or appreciating how much Cam fell. Most mocks had him top-5.
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Thee Idiotic Minivan K
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I probably need to watch another game or two of his, but VJ was my biggest draft crush until I actually watched him play a full game it looked like his skill level was so low. He could hardly do anything with the ball, and a lot of his points were set up by his teammates and spot up.
Coach Ellis
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I thought he looked good in the Olympics for the Bahamas team. If I draft him, I’m banking on the athleticism, upside and work ethic helping him succeed. He is a little older than the other guys, which is why I have him 5th. Usually, I can’t say “I’m happy with whoever is at our pick”. . . typically I have a guy or two who stands out dramatically that I want absolutely the most. And I just don’t feel that way this year. I’m happy with any of them.
underdog
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In general, I don’t pay much attention to draft prospects’ (and rookies’) turnovers because this usually becomes a non-issue for most players as they get older and more experienced (players who like to dribble into walls excluded). Waiting to hear your comments on Kasparas after your deep dive. I’ve done mine, and he’s my guy for our #5 pick.
I've had him at 3 for a couple months now, lol. I really like him and have seen quite a few of his games live as well as watched most of what's out there.
I think there are turnovers you don't worry about and one that you do. Like I said about half of his turnovers are not concerning at all, but about half are cause for concern
underdog
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He is #3 on my board as well.
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I just don’t know if I can do another rail thin project
They really don’t pan out very often. When they do, they usually put on weight. And they always shoot well or block shots.
Tremendous Upside
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You’re looking for the wrong things.
He’s hyper athletic, doesn't need a runway to get to full speed, makes quick decisions, doesn't overdribble, goes hard to the basket, moves without the ball, always has his head up, never gives up on plays, has a low dribble in traffic, can shoot but doesn't force it or take bad shots, doesn't run his mouth or sulk when things don't go his way.
In other words, he already has a great skills package for the NBA. I don't give a **** about Baylor, that was a terrible team and half the time VJ looked like he didn't understand how he was supposed to play their brand of chaotic streetball.
No he's not perfect. His dribble is still loose, and like many athletic kids who can ”hang in the air” when driving, VJ tends to do it too much and gets into trouble when his options disappear while he's airborne. But these are small things.
Thee Idiotic Minivan K
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In the game I watched he couldn’t get to the hoop becau They pressured him everytime he got the ball and he couldn’t do anything with it. I just don’t see star potential and we need that.
I think the Jazz have to take him if he's available at #21, especially if the Jazz have lost confidence in Cody. Noa's combination of length, plus defensive reactions give him a solid floor, and his shooting, passing and play finishing give him a high ceiling. He's got a chance to be a Swiss army knife and defensive disruptor. He just doesn't have change-of-speed or change-of-direction with the ball right now.
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seattlejazzfan
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you may be right - though i don't think you are. but if you are right he doesn't develop those things he won't make it in the league. he's a lead guard. period. that's what he is, it's what he's always been and it's what NBA teams are drafting and developing.
Nah not really
seattlejazzfan
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williams problem wasn't that he was thin.
Point blank: unless he can spread the floor or anchor a defense he will not last in the NBA.
If he can do either he probably will last. If he can do both he might be a star. I like him but his shooting is suspect.
It’s good his shooting is recently looking okay. And he’s especially young which is nice. I don’t know if I can get there depending on who else is left on the board.
Looks like Traore had his first bad game in awhile. 8pts/4ast on 3/11 shooting in 19 minutes. I guess that's still 15pts/8ast per 36 minutes, so I guess not terrible.
I believe his regular season is over now and not sure if his team even made it to the post season.
I believe his regular season is over now and not sure if his team even made it to the post season.
Add Traore to the list of intriguing players that might be available at 21 that I’d like to take a swing on (re: the question of trading up using #21).
Ok, looked it up, not that anyone cares:
Traore's team is in the play in as the 10th ranked team which is set up exactly like the NBA play in tournament. So in order to make the play offs they will need to win two games on the road and then will be matched up with the best team.
Penda's team is in as the 6th seed.
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I agree that his best path is to be a lead guard and develop the shooting and the rim pressure and that's how any team who drafts him should develop him. I will watch more to see if he's got it, but it didn't look amazing in college.
41.2% FG
27.3% 3FG
69.5% FT
50.9% TS
2.5 FTs/game
4 rebounds/game
10 pts/game
Its all just a bit underwhelming.
The physical profile is great at 6'9". The passing is elite. Can the rest be developed by the Jazz? There is some ground to make up here. Or are there more strengths to his game that I am missing? Perhaps the passing vision is special enough that you roll the dice on the rest of the skillset.