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Following Potential 2025 Draftees

Handlogten's Heros said:
I think as far as size for a pg. He isn't small or big (once he fills out). I think size for a primary creator/initiator he is small for sure.
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He’s a half inch taller than Steph Curry and a couple inches longer in wingspan. He’s okay sizewise. It’s just that the skill level for that type of player needs to be really, really high.
 
Handlogten's Heros said:
What if its a "we have that at home sweetie maybe we should learn our lesson?"

Like when my wife tells me I can't get an elliptical machine when I have a treadmill that isn't being used at home.

lol I get what you are saying tho
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Meh, I still hate the "at home" part. At home should mean nothing here. Whether you do or don't want Fears, I think that evaluation should be exactly the same with or without whoever you are considering is at home. Like if we traded Key tomorrow, I think that should have zero influence on how much we should want Fears.
 
Basketball Novice said:
Strangely enough, I wouldn't mind Kon at 5 either. Completely different style than Fears but there is something to be said for having the style of an efficient basketball robot. No frills, no flash, just raw efficient buckets.
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I think he is an "easy button" prospect. He has warts and all that but I think he's just going to be easy to work with and you won't have to worry about him much.
 
KqWIN said:
Meh, I still hate the "at home" part. At home should mean nothing here. Whether you do or don't want Fears, I think that evaluation should be exactly the same with or without whoever you are considering is at home. Like if we traded Key tomorrow, I think that should have zero influence on how much we should want Fears.
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Fine.
 
Handlogten's Heros said:
I think he is an "easy button" prospect. He has warts and all that but I think he's just going to be easy to work with and you won't have to worry about him much.
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I think there is more there, hidden under the unassuming exterior. 64% TS doesn't just fall out of the sky. Having no wasted movement and seamlessly fitting into whatever a team can do is an elite talent within itself. It might be a sign of something more. Frankly, I just like the kid every time I hear him talk ball.
 
KqWIN said:
Tre's path almost never happens, and when it does, it's usually because a totally changed his role. Booker, for example, completely changed roles going from spot up shooter to ball in hand player. So it can happen, but it's usually because a player did not have an opportunity to play with the ball before the NBA like Book. If a guy already has the freedom to attack the rim, he usually doesn't suddenly start doing that in the NBA. I made a big fuss about this way back, but still no Tre fan has been able to show when this has actually happened in history.

Still, there are examples of players who are really good offensive players despite tough shot diets. Herro, McCollum, Murray etc. But those are what I consider the high end outcomes for Tre.
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I mean the scouting report from NBA Draft.net says that Donovan Mitchell often settles for contested two point shots because of his inability to get to the rim consistently. Also, his inability to elevate off if one foot could hinder his ability to convert at the rim (which was discussed ad nauseum on this board.)

It occurs to me that he might not have been used as effectively as his talents would have allowed in college. .
 
framer said:
I mean the scouting report from NBA Draft.net says that Donovan Mitchell often settles for contested two point shots because of his inability to get to the rim consistently. Also, his inability to elevate off if one foot could hinder his ability to convert at the rim (which was discussed ad nauseum on this board.)

It occurs to me that he might not have been used as effectively as his talents would have allowed in college. .
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Mitchell is a good reference point. He is another player like Booker who had a much bigger role in the NBA than in college. Like I said, it can happen, but it's usually the result of a role change. I don't think Tre's lack of rim pressure was the result of his role.
 
KqWIN said:
If you're someone who emphasizes how a player ended his season, Kon was godly efficient to end the year.

Last 20 per36:

PTS: 18.3
TRB: 5.0
AST: 3.1
TS%: 68.6%

Last 10 per36:

PTS: 18.3
TRB: 4.7
AST: 3.8
TS%: 71.7%
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To add to this, the TS chart for Kon on databallr is crazy. He ended the season with the 5 game rolling average being 67% TS.

https://databallr.com/NBADraft/profile/Kon_Knueppel/126925

He only got more and more efficient as the season progressed.
 
Basketball Novice said:
To add to this, the TS chart for Kon on databallr is crazy. He ended the season with the 5 game rolling average being 67% TS.

https://databallr.com/NBADraft/profile/Kon_Knueppel/126925

He only got more and more efficient as the season progressed.
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Numbers w/o Flagg are fairly promising as well. I'm 100% sure he could have done more with more opportunity. Guess it just depends on how far you're willing to go with hypothetical Kon with more opportunity. The other side of this is that he also benefitted from being on a such a strong team.
 
KqWIN said:
If you're someone who emphasizes how a player ended his season, Kon was godly efficient to end the year.

Last 20 per36:

PTS: 18.3
TRB: 5.0
AST: 3.1
TS%: 68.6%

Last 10 per36:

PTS: 18.3
TRB: 4.7
AST: 3.8
TS%: 71.7%
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Kon took a minute to find his shot early in the year. I just take the whole season though. Its a small sample as-is.
 
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