Following Potential 2025 Draftees

[seattlejazzfan]

This seems like a takeaway from listening to Locke’s podcast today

that's funny, but i don't think i've listened to david locke (other than clips of his show that have been posted on JF in the past) since he was on kjr in seattle in the early 2000s.

 

[underdog]

Pretty damn good list of players, but that list wont include the guys who got drafted and arent in the league anymore due to not being good enough.

Wonder why being Canadian isnt viewed more positively. They might have the biggest hit % among any country.

Canadians eat less junk food than Americans. That must explain it.

 

[underdog]

My favorites (no precise order here, but definitely a rough ranking):

Knueppel
Kasparas
CMB
Wolf
Essengue
Coward
Hansen Yang
Gonzalez
Fleming
Saraf


This exercise has taught me that if we can't get Kon at 5, then I'm obviously in favor of trading down and collecting some assets. It would be interesting to see a youth movement with some good connecting pieces. Given where we are at the moment, I'd be excited by a draft outcome of Kasparas + CMB (or Kon + Coward/Gonzalez).




In other words, we might be positioned to get some excellent connecting pieces this year. Sell off Lauri, Collins, Sexton, etc? and lose a bunch of games next year. Try to finish in the top 3 of next year's draft.

Nice list. I’d go with Kas and Coward.

 

[underdog]

However, the Jazz have probably already given up on Collier because he's shown no shooting progress

lol

 

[Powshredder]

Tankathon just updated(prob final mock). Has us taking Ace

 

[David Stern]

that's funny, but i don't think i've listened to david locke (other than clips of his show that have been posted on JF in the past) since he was on kjr in seattle in the early 2000s.

You lucky son of a bitch

 

[framer]

Even if the Jazz will absolutely not draft Bailey, they should definitely not broadcast it.

 

[seattlejazzfan]

You lucky son of a bitch

i actually felt like during his seattle days he was in his prime and while he wasn't the most talented radio show host, he was ahead of almost everybody in terms of stats/data. at least made it worth tuning in on occasion while sitting in traffic.

 

[Ferguson_Mellochill]

I’m starting to wonder if the Jazz really like Demin. He’s big, athletic, plays some defense and passes well.

 

[Peter Effin' Parker]

I’m starting to wonder if the Jazz really like Demin. He’s big, athletic, plays some defense and passes well.

And he went to BYU so Ryan Smith already knows how to pay him

 

[Ferguson_Mellochill]

And he went to BYU so Ryan Smith already knows how to pay him

He worked out for the Jazz. Fears shot 28% on 3PAs this year, and Demin shot 27%. If you want a guy who can pass over the top, Demin can do that as well as anyone in the draft.

 

[Saint Cy of JFC]

5 more hours

 

[Bodhi]

And he went to BYU so Ryan Smith already knows how to pay him

Spoken like a fan of a broke school.

 

[jom2003]

Because the first step of learning to finish at the rim is to get to the rim

You don't need to get to the rim if you are an active cutter or a lob threat. Only a player that need the ball in his hands at all times will have to worry about not getting to the rim.

 

[Saint Cy of JFC]

You don't need to get to the rim if you are an active cutter or a lob threat. Only a player that need the ball in his hands at all times will have to worry about not getting to the rim.

Ok, but you still need the player on your team who can get to the rim with the ball in his hands...

 

[Handlogten's Heros]

Even if the Jazz will absolutely not draft Bailey, they should definitely not broadcast it.

I think Whizz have obviously telegraphed this bull **** and I think we should be real quiet. Take him either because you like him or want to move him for more stuff. I think we take him if Charlotte doesn't leverage the situation (I think they might). Make them come correct with an offer or move him to NOP or Brooklyn.

I think Charlotte may really want Kon but they are a bit unpredictable atm. So they may not risk us taking him at 5. I think there would be a real chance we take him if he is on the board.

 

[Handlogten's Heros]

It sounds like 21 might get moved to go up or to get a player. Saw that with Sarah Todd and some other place. Only player I could think of was Devin Carter paging @SoberasHotRod

 

[Peter Effin' Parker]

Spoken like a fan of a broke school.

 

[framer]

It sounds like 21 might get moved to go up or to get a player. Saw that with Sarah Todd and some other place. Only player I could think of was Devin Carter paging @SoberasHotRod

Has Sarah Todd actually broken any news? I can't recall. . .

 

[jom2003]

Fears gets to the rim at a massively higher rate than Tre, also draws tons of fouls, turning shots he would make at the rim into Free Throws which don't get reflected in the rim%.

Fears has great shooting indicators from everywhere except off the dribble 3s. He just took a ton of off dribble 3s. Fears shoots as well with non-rim 2s as Ace Bailey (46%)

Fears has a 28.6% assist rate compared to Tre's 16.5% assist rate. When players make more passes, they have more turnovers generally. A/T ratio is only a small part of the playmaking picture. Tre is masssively handicapped by the fact that he can't consistently get into the paint and create advantages for others.

Fears profiles as a boom or bust offensive engine guard. Tre profiles as an all shooting no defense off guard. That is why some people see Fears as a better prospect.

Fears drives to the rim at a higher rate because he doesn't have an outside shot. Tre wouldn't have to drive as much because he can shoot from anywhere and can score easy buckets off the catch. Tre doesn't need to drive or dribble for 10+ seconds to take the air of the ball on every possession to be effective. And Fears high TOs and low percentage at the rim suggest he's not very good at that either. Not yet at least. Not sure what's so hard to understand about this.

Fears higher assist rate/drive rate is a result of higher usg%(31% compared to Tre's 29%) which backs up my point of him needing the ball in his hand to be effective. And in the NBA, and on our team in particular, he simply wouldn't be able to get that.