Dwill isn't any quicker than Jimmer is and he has managed to turn into a great player. I'm not saying Jimmer is going to be as good as Dwill but if quickness is the only complaint, he is certainly worth looking at. Guys who can shoot like him don't come around very often and far as defense goes, effort and savvy make up for most physical deficiencies. The Jazz will have to determine if he will put it the work, but if he will, there is no reason he can't be a good NBA player.
For those of you who don't like Jimmer...
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CJ never bothers anyone really. His D is almost non-existent. Price and CJ for Jimmer would be a steal.
What do you want to bet the projected draft order changes dozens of times prior to the draft? But seriously, that's a weak argument you should be embarrased of.
I have no real dog in this fight, btw, although I am amused by Jimmer-mania. I will say this, based on what I have seen Jimmer is the kind of player that rightly or wrongly tends to slide throughout the pre-draft workout process. No one is going to get enchanted by his measurements or times. No one is going to talk themselves into the idea that they've seen something that everyone else is missing. Unless he's just insane for the rest of the tournament I'd be very surprised if his slot wasn't downwardly mobile during the pre-draft process.
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But what about the counter that NBAdraft.net agrees with the Jimmer lovers? Going at number 10 in their mock draft. Ford has him at 13 or 14 right now, I believe.
I'm sure those rankings will be completely static between now and the draft. No new information will come in.
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never!
billyshelby
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There is no way that kid can guard anybody one on one in the NBA.
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sirkicky makes an astute observation about Fredette's combine measurements et all driving down his draft stock. If the draft were around the same time as the tourney then players with drive and a will to win would get drafted. But come draft day the most recent flavor in GMs mouths is the combine measurements - a day in which freak athleticism will trump college stats.
Jimmer will be there for the Jazz' second lottery pick if they want him.
Jimmer will be there for the Jazz' second lottery pick if they want him.
I'm not sure about this. Who could John Stockton guard one on one? How about Chris Paul? How about Tony Parker? Now it's true, Jimmer will need to make a transition to PG, and I think that's what scouts will be looking at more than measurements. Wing span, bench pressing and vertical jump really don't matter so much 20 feet out on the floor.
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Did you really just ask who Stockton, Paul, and Parker can guard one on one?
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Deron is a terrible defender. But he's also taller and bigger than Jimmer so he can post up smaller guards on offense. Williams has a terrible time guarding the quicker PG's in the league. Now translate that to Jimmer, who is shorter and slower. Deron's a natural PG; Jimmer is not - he's converting over to the point. At 6'1," Jimmer is going to have a much tougher time getting shots off. And he's not going to score in the lane like he's done in college.
Sure did. And lets add Steph Curry, Monta Ellis, Steve Nash, Francisco Garcia, Darren Collison, Ben Gordon, Steve Blake, and a number of others. Playing the passing lanes and getting steals isn't the same as playing man defense. No doubt Fredette will need to put more effort into defense, but he's got more PG skills than a lot of college SGs who had to transition to PG in the pros.