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fishonjazz said:
Good post but only an idiot would think that a statement like "black people are athletic" means literally ALL black people. No one thinks all black people are athletic and everyone should understand that. Obviously there are elderly black people, crippled black people, infant black people and some black people that were not blessed with athleticism.

That's why I think it's dumb that a statement like "a higher percentage of black people are athletic than other races" is not racist, but a statement like "black people are athletic" is racist. Everyone should know that those two sentences mean the exact same thing (since its obvious that not every black person is athletic)
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Yeah I'm not afraid of the topic. Honestly we as humans should have discuss like this far more often. Also I hope the line "However I'm not ignorant enough to believe that those things are true across the board for any group of people regardless of race." didn't come off as if I was calling you ignorant. I fully understand what you are saying and mostly agree. Your keeping it simple with the understanding that your point is "understood".

It is a slippery slope though.
 
fishonjazz said:
So it's racist to say black people are athletic..... but not racist to say most black people are athletic.
Ok. I think that is stupid.


Oh and no one should say the sky is blue because sometimes it isnt blue. Dont say babies are cute cause some babies are not cute. Blah blah blah


Also why would people get upset over recieving a compliment like black people are athletic?
If someone was to say white people are good looking I certainly would not get upset and cry racism.... I would just say thanks
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Most black people are NOT athletic. It is true that certain groups will have small physical differences that give them notable advantages over others at high levels of competition. For example, people of West African descent will typically have minute differences in fast twitch muscle fibers and a couple of others things that make me the best sprinters. Yet, the difference between a world class sprinter from European descent and one from West African descent is like 0.1 seconds or some ****.

I play with over 20 black dudes at the gym every Saturday. Not a single one of them is specially athletic.

Stereotypes act as a barrier to true understanding, and I do think we should let go of them.
 
Siro said:
Most black people are NOT athletic.
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Makes sense why the nba and nfl have about the same amount of every race in them
 
Black people are generally more athletic than white people.

Black people have less money than white people.
 
fishonjazz said:
Makes sense why the nba and nfl have about the same amount of every race in them
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An out of context quote that completely disregards everything I said in order to keep you from reexamining your opinions in a meaningful way. Since that's how you want to play it, I won't waste your time or mine.
 
Siro said:
Most black people are NOT athletic. It is true that certain groups will have small physical differences that give them notable advantages over others at high levels of competition. For example, people of West African descent will typically have minute differences in fast twitch muscle fibers and a couple of others things that make me the best sprinters. Yet, the difference between a world class sprinter from European descent and one from West African descent is like 0.1 seconds or some ****.

I play with over 20 black dudes at the gym every Saturday. Not a single one of them is specially athletic.

Stereotypes act as a barrier to true understanding, and I do think we should let go of them.
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You might be on to something....... being surrounded by white people may actually cause the loss of athleticism. Black people born and raised in Utah are in grave danger.
 
0.1 seconds for a sprinter is actually a lot...and the difference is usually more like 0.3-0.4 tenths at a minimum.
 
Siro said:
An out of context quote that completely disregards everything I said in order to keep you from reexamining your opinions in a meaningful way. Since that's how you want to play it, I won't waste your time or mine.
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Cool
 
fishonjazz said:
Good post but only an idiot would think that a statement like "black people are athletic" means literally ALL black people. No one thinks all black people are athletic and everyone should understand that. Obviously there are elderly black people, crippled black people, infant black people and some black people that were not blessed with athleticism.

That's why I think it's dumb that a statement like "a higher percentage of black people are athletic than other races" is not racist, but a statement like "black people are athletic" is racist. Everyone should know that those two sentences mean the exact same thing (since its obvious that not every black person is athletic)
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Exactly. But when people in the US say "athletic," it generally means one of the Big3 sports in the U.S. and perhaps track and field. Now throw in hockey, swimming, golf, soccer, ice skating, etc. and the numbers change quite significantly. AS Clinton famously said, it depends on what your definition of "is" is.
 
Stifle Tower said:
Exactly. But when people in the US say "athletic," it generally means one of the Big3 sports in the U.S. and perhaps track and field. Now throw in hockey, swimming, golf, soccer, ice skating, etc. and the numbers change quite significantly. AS Clinton famously said, it depends on what your definition of "is" is.
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Please don't mention golf and athleticism together
 
Stifle Tower said:
A golfer is every bit as athletic as some of those fat-assed DH's in the American League.
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Maybe. But I wouldn't call a fat *** swinging a bat athletic

I think some people think that because something is difficult it makes you an athlete if you can do it. (Golf, hitting a baseball, driving a race car, etc)
Sewing takes hand eye coordination and not everyone can do it well, that doesn't mean you are athletic cause you can sew.
Same with golfing, racing cars, hitting a baseball...... yes it's very hard to be really good at those things but I don't consider that being athletic.

My interpretation of being athletic is based primarily off speed and jumping ability. But that is just my definition.
 
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