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Gordon Hayward and the 2015 Draft

GVC, you really neg me for saying "wut"? You put your tampon in sideways this morning or what?
 
Good thread. I think we need to remember that the Hayward signing would not be about next year, or even too much about the next, but about the team that will be contending in a few years.

Give them time to gel and get experience together. I think that makes the case for keeping him, even with a bit of an overpay, much stronger.
 
QuinSnydersHair said:
They did make Hayward an offer last year. He and his agent turned it down. And that in and of itself does not mean it was not a fair offer. It could've been good.
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I know they did. But DL should have been able to look ahead just as easy as Hayward's agent did. I have a feeling they could have paid him close to what he wanted and struck a deal and saved $ compared to what he is going to get offered now.

Not to mention if he was under contract we could have used him for potential trades during the draft.
 
JAZZGASM said:
I know they did. But DL should have been able to look ahead just as easy as Hayward's agent did. I have a feeling they could have paid him close to what he wanted and struck a deal and saved $ compared to what he is going to get offered now.

Not to mention if he was under contract we could have used him for potential trades during the draft.
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Maybe he doesn't want to be here and his hope was hed gets a max offer sheet and we wouldn't match.


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Lattimer said:
Maybe he doesn't want to be here and his hope was hed gets a max offer sheet and we wouldn't match.


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Maybe, and if I were him I would have been unhappy last year too. From my perspective, he'd have a much better chance of having a good career in Utah compared with Cleveland. Plus who wants to live in Cleveland?
 
JAZZGASM said:
Maybe, and if I were him I would have been unhappy last year too. From my perspective, he'd have a much better chance of having a good career in Utah compared with Cleveland. Plus who wants to live in Cleveland?
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Hayward cares about money a lot so even though he says it's an awful place to play, he'll go there if they pay him. So to answer your question, Hayward does.

And I'm not sure why he had the right to be unhappy last year. Jazz gave him a green light to be the guy and he was worse. He sulked and he sucked and somehow that was proof enough to other teams that he deserves a max...


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Kevin Looney is a very skilled player with the body of a Durant. He will go top 10. Cliff Alexander is only 6ft8 but boy Is he strong


PointGod_AlecBurks said:
If your talking about the lottery selections or near by, the strengths of the 2015 draft appear to be 2 positions of need for the Jazz;

Defensive minded SF's and 7 footers.

Stanley Johnson will go top 5 barring injury, hes monstrously strong for a Freshman, can shoot and drive too.
Justice Winslow and Rondae Hollis Jefferson both should be in the range of lottery picks, both have shooting issues but are freak athletes and noted rebounders and defenders.
Mario Hezonja will go top 10 for sure, he has plenty of defensive capability though hes a bit of a gambler at this point, Its rumored hes grown to 6'8".
Kelly Oubre is also a wildcard hes a 6'7 lefty with a 7'2 Wingspan, he made a massive rise up the rankings last year all the way to being projected 12th in DX's mock.

The 7'ers are Karl Towns, Okafor's 6'11 but hes 270 so im listing him here, Kristaps Porzingis, Willie Cauley Stein, and possibly Myles Turner and Illimane Diop, (possibly Nikola Milutinov)

After the teens though, from what it looks like to me, there's a steep decline in talent. (though i do still have some players i like in that range, theyre few and far between)

The projected 2nd rounders are a joke compared to this year, most of them are players who dropped out of previous drafts. Mamadou Jaiteh for example is projected as the 29th pick in DX's mock, he wasn't even a top 40 player (and dropped out of) the 2013 draft.
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ncoloradojazz said:
Kevin Looney is a very skilled player with the body of a Durant. He will go top 10. Cliff Alexander is only 6ft8 but boy Is he strong
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Kevon Looney.

Im very high on him and UCLA's recruiting class, but i have positional questions, its been said more and more of late that hes a PF.
 
Lattimer said:
Hayward cares about money a lot so even though he says it's an awful place to play, he'll go there if they pay him. So to answer your question, Hayward does.

And I'm not sure why he had the right to be unhappy last year. Jazz gave him a green light to be the guy and he was worse. He sulked and he sucked and somehow that was proof enough to other teams that he deserves a max...


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I think we all had a right to be unhappy last year. He had a green light in Corbin's dysfunctional world. It was awful to watch. I'm sure it was awful to be a part of.
 
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