Hayward & Jazz - not close to agreement (Hayward leaving 4/40 on the table)

[fishonjazz]

I set myself up for disappointment in my hopes that the Jazz might land Harden somehow. Last Halloween was rough. Oh well.

Harden probably would have just got "corbined" anyway.
After we had foye and marvin so wgere would harden minutes?

 

[b_line]

I set myself up for disappointment in my hopes that the Jazz might land Harden somehow. Last Halloween was rough. Oh well.

We should have traded Hayward for Harden. That trade probably would have even been better for OKC than Martin.

 

[NUMBERICA]

We should have traded Hayward for Harden. That trade probably would have even been better for OKC than Martin.

What makes that hard is that Harden would have to choose to sign an extension with the team he was being traded to and I wouldn't blame him for not wanting to come here. That, and who knows if the Jazz were actually in the running to begin with.

 

[NUMBERICA]

Actually, I take some of that back. The Jazz would've held his agency rights so I'm not sure how much his willing to sign an immediate extension actually matters (as it is very unlikely anyone would forego ~$10 million additional and stay an extra year at a place he didn't want to be in order to enter UFA).

 

[The Midnight]

As much as the Thunder may have undervalued Harden, I think most people thought the right choice was to amnesty Perk or commit to Harden and move Ibaka, but the Thunder got cocky.

They figured hey, we got this. Lamb will be a stud and these draft picks will be amazing and Martin can so what Harden did ezpz until Lamb comes along.

Wrong.

X100 times this!!!

 

[b_line]

What makes that hard is that Harden would have to choose to sign an extension with the team he was being traded to and I wouldn't blame him for not wanting to come here. That, and who knows if the Jazz were actually in the running to begin with.

I thought his deal was an extend and trade? Jazz would not have traded for him without an extension.

 

[Litany]

I thought his deal was an extend and trade? Jazz would not have traded for him without an extension.

He would have been an RFA the next summer so we could have matched anything he got in free agency and since we would have been able to give the extra year and the risk associated with the QO to get to UFA he would have stayed.

 

[The Midnight]

He would have been an RFA the next summer so we could have matched anything he got in free agency and since we would have been able to give the extra year and the risk associated with the QO to get to UFA he would have stayed.

Yeah that's what I thought as well. So pretty much the same situation as Hayward but obviously vastly different levels of talent.

No way Hayward is worth MAX. This coming from a guy who had Hayward as his avatar for the past 3 years unchanged.

 

[udflyer]

Watched Haywards interview at practice.

Maybe I am reading too much into it, but his body language looked like he had just been told "No extension for you"

I hope I am wrong, but my total guess is no deal.

 

[The Midnight]

Watched Haywards interview at practice.

Maybe I am reading too much into it, but his body language looked like he had just been told "No extension for you"

I hope I am wrong, but my total guess is no deal.

No surprises there...


I'm liking Favors more and more after this Hayward shenanigan... Hayward could have just said to the agent "I'll accept Favors' Deal" and be done with it. What's he holding out for??

 

[udflyer]

No surprises there...


I'm liking Favors more and more after this Hayward shenanigan... Hayward could have just said to the agent "I'll accept Favors' Deal" and be done with it. What's he holding out for??

I think he would accept Favors deal.

From leaked reports, Jazz low balled him with 4/40

 

[Gameface]

No surprises there...


I'm liking Favors more and more after this Hayward shenanigan... Hayward could have just said to the agent "I'll accept Favors' Deal" and be done with it. What's he holding out for??

Several millions dollars...

More money than I'm likely to see in my lifetime.