back to topic.The understanding of where this is going or what is motivating it is not agreed upon by everyone as your echo chamber says. I don’t necessarily agree with them as I’ve stated that Russia could indeed move into the Donbas where there are a lot of ethnic Russians, but those who think this is all posturing do point to some interesting evidence to support their case.
Hillary Clinton is a globalist who'd laugh and enjoy a tumble in the straw with Putin or any other world leader. She doesn't believe in borders or nation states, just money. It's all good as long as she gets her jollies and her money.
As weak minded as any know-nothing ignoramuses in the trailer park might be, there is no one there stupid enough not to see that fact about HC. Yet we have a completely indentured media service and flocks of professors all over the country whose job it is to create a more complicated mythology to bedazzle the populace. The reason this is needed is to legitimize corrupt governance and get kids to go shoot people in foreign lands, or where ever, in the service of the game.
I don't know Putin. I read a little Russian, I can go see what he is saying in the Russian press.. Go figure. Perhaps the Russian people are mushroomed the same way we are. What should you believe.
I'd expect Putin to be corrupt just like Hillary or Biden, the same way Marxist strategists employ "the Politics of Personal Destruction" against people like Trump using merely false assertions without evidence.
But the undeniable fact is that during Gorbachev days, negotiating stuff like independent states for Eastern European countries like Ukraine and nuclear arms reductions like the START treaty, we made a deal with Russia that we wouldn not move NATO into that space, not even one inch. Putin is calling us out on that broken promise, and our leaders and our Press are all lying to us about what what is going on.
Our leaders and our Press have been goading the American public for war for a damn long time already. I could lay out the game leading up to our own Civil War and even the Indian wars and removals like the Trail of Tears. There's always the money, and always the corrupt politicians and their backers/cronies who make fortunes off of war, poverty, death and destruction of ordinary people.
It was "Remember the Maine" that got us to go take Cuba and the Philippines. It was "Over There" that got us to send millions of duped Americans to go fight to save the Crown in WWI, and our own stupid elites who built up Hitler until he went Amok and attacked the West.
And it's been the big Cold War lie after we gave Russia the nuke technology, even while our super elite played Russia and China like the little puppets they are.
Reading Putin as I do, the fact is that whatever his political ideology or background, he is a Russian nationalist more than a globalist. He may be on the short list for regime change in the eyes of Western managers. He favors home-grown financial interests' "oligarchs" over American oligarchs. Whoop de doo. What a crime against humanity.
I believe Putin will develop good relations with elected Ukrainian leadership, but he will also take out Western fascist agitators/fascists if they do a provocation. Imagine that. A tactical strike against a small band of terrorists funded by Soros and perhaps other Western Oligarchs. Pretty much the same thing as us taking out an Iranian agitator in Iraq. He will do what has to be done, then he will leave. He can count on two things. Ukrainians, whether ethnic Russian or not, do not want him to come in to stay. Whatever he does will be communicated to those people as a benevolent Russia helping Ukrainian democracy. There will be a treaty with Ukraine about a security zone around Russia's Black Sea bases. Maybe even a few long-term leases for further military bases.
Tulsi Gabbard is a good American who doesn't believe we should be using our military to fight for our industrialists' interests. More of a conventional democrat than Hillary.