If the Jazz are blown out tonight...

[infection]

I'd be okay with parting ways 2/3 of the way through the season... then establish Lowe or someone as the interim coach for 10 games or so before hiring Hollins to close out the season over a bumpy transition period.

 

[bjunior]

Will Corbin be fired?

I mean, at some point ya gotta make a change, right?

How many more blowouts must we suffer before a change is made?

corbin is in the game for a reason and this season he's not going anywhere or until allstar break for sure

besides, to attract a good coach you have to offer something, and right now the jazz can offer a team who plays 4 on 5

 

[zman1527]

corbin is in the game for a reason and this season he's not going anywhere or until allstar break for sure

besides, to attract a good coach you have to offer something, and right now the jazz can offer a team who plays 4 on 5

Agree with the timing. Let Ty coach them into irretrievable tank city, something like 9-45, then bring in a real coach to start teaching them real NBA skills. Do it before next season before Ty ruins this set of youngsters.

I think a good coach can see the potential here and would be happy to come aboard.

 

[green]

The Jazz did not choose Corbin over Hornacek. Corbin was already the coach before Jeff decided he wanted to coach full time. Jeff wasn't considered because he wanted to spend time with his family. It was just poor timing. Those other deals were internet rumors. If Millsap deal was on the table then I would be most upset about that non move especially when it became apparent that Millsap wasn't part of the future.

I disagree. The Jazz could have fired Corbin after the Allstar break and made Horny intern coach. Then after the Jazz make the playoffs, make Horny the head coach.

 

[Weezur]

The Raps starting 4 is Amir Johnson, arguably their best all-around player. Right now he's better than Favors. Jazz have to hope Dwayne Casey goes irrationally small (likely), allowing Kanter to go to work, and that Rudy Gay and DeMar DeRozan miss the loads of pull up 20-footers their bound to take (also likely).

Raps 88
Jazz 76

O geez, forgot about Amir. Yeah this is going to be a blowout then. Our bigs can't match theirs unless Favors has a good day and Kanter somehow gets his motor back.

 

[GVC]

right now the jazz can offer a team who plays 4 on 5

A lot of posters seem to be falling back on two explanations of the poor results so far this season: The Jazz are playing 4 on 5 (Tinsley and JLIII at the 1) and the bench sucks. Unfortunately,

1. The Jazz were 20-12 in the games Tinsley started last season.

2. Jazz +/- per 48 minutes

Team: -11.2

RJ: -21.9
Gordo: -19.3
Favs: -16.8
Tinsley: -15.7
Kanter: -13.1

Tinsley/Gordo/RJ/Favs/Kanter lineup: -29.0


The bench has been bad, the starters have been terrible. The poor play of the starters can not all be blamed on Jamaal Tinsley/JLIII. Our young players aren't nearly as good as some thought they were. It's unlikely any of them become better players than Al or Millsap.

 

[bigmike]

I'd be surprised if Corbin was fired before season's end, but it might provide a nice spark. I don't get the overwhelming sense from anyone that the team loves Ty.

 

[Revolution 9]

Yeah. Gut the roster, and then tell Corbin to make chicken salad out of chicken ****. That's fair.

Yeah I know right. A starting line up line up full of lotto picks. No wonder we look completely lost.
Give this guy a low post scorer, a flexible offensive 4, a hustle guy with dreads, and a vet PG then he will get us to the playoffs.

 

[Stifle Tower]

Also, look at rumored deals the Jazz passed on.

Harden for Kanter.
Bledsoe for Millsap.
Corbin for Horny. We could have had this lineup:

Bledsoe
Harden
Hayward
Favors

Yikes. We HAD better walk away with a 5+ time All-Star. Like Deron as the floor of how good this player will be.

Didn't hear what else the Harden/Kanter deal included. There would have been more pieces. The Millsap/Bledsoe deal was rumored to ALSO include Burks. And then the story was the Clippers took Bledsoe off the market because they weren't certain Paul was going to re-sign. So cross that deal off the list. Rumors are just that...we never hear the full details unless an actual trade happens and some of the terms are often much different than first thought. And for what it's worth, I'd rather have Kanter right now. Sure he's making mistakes. But franchise 5's are VERY hard to find. And Bledsoe? Well, that's really a moot point if, in fact, LA DID pull him off the market last season. What would it have taken this summer? Not sure. But I'd like to see what Burke gives us and compare a full year of stats for Trey vs. Bledose. Then, of course, let's see what Bledsoe demands as a FA. The lineup above is nice, but that's about all you can afford going forward. All those players are VERY, VERY expensive. Personally, I'm more in favor of the Hayward/Favors/Kanter/Burke/(Wiggins or Parker) starting five, with Burks off the bench and supported by Neto, Gobert, the GS pick and 1-2 more good FA's or player(s)s acquired via trade on a short-term deal. Then, in 4-5 years, 1-2 players will likely have to be traded due to luxury tax limitations. But, Lindsey has already started to prepare by acquiring additional picks.

 

[Jeditiger]

The Jazz haven't fired a coach in well over 30 years. I don't think it's going to happen.

 

[Ferguson_Mellochill]

Hollins is available.
George Karl is available.
The Van Gundy's are available.
Nate McMillan is available.

Corbin's contract expires after this year. There has been no talk of an extension. No mention of it at all.

 

[Ferguson_Mellochill]

A lot of posters seem to be falling back on two explanations of the poor results so far this season: The Jazz are playing 4 on 5 (Tinsley and JLIII at the 1) and the bench sucks. Unfortunately,

1. The Jazz were 20-12 in the games Tinsley started last season.

2. Jazz +/- per 48 minutes

Team: -11.2

RJ: -21.9
Gordo: -19.3
Favs: -16.8
Tinsley: -15.7
Kanter: -13.1

Tinsley/Gordo/RJ/Favs/Kanter lineup: -29.0


The bench has been bad, the starters have been terrible. The poor play of the starters can not all be blamed on Jamaal Tinsley/JLIII. Our young players aren't nearly as good as some thought they were. It's unlikely any of them become better players than Al or Millsap.

Kanter is already a better defender and rebounder than Millsap, and a better defender than Al. His offense is still developing, but I think he'll be considered better than both Al or Millsap by the end of the season.

Favors is already a better defender and rebounder than either Sap or Al. That's a very important consideration if the Jazz have other players on the floor who can score the ball.

I don't think having Millsap on the team instead of Kanter or Favors would add much to our ability to win games. He was never a go-to scorer, and he became a liability on defense and on the boards. Having Al would help though. The Jazz relied on him to score a lot every night.