Mongoose
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My comment was mostly TIC but thanks for verifying how much more tragic it is when a white person dies.
I'm well aware that republicans want to keep killing muslims.
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My comment was mostly TIC but thanks for verifying how much more tragic it is when a white person dies.
I'm well aware that republicans want to keep killing muslims.
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The Role of Religion in Russia’s War on Ukraine
On March 6, Russian Orthodox Patriarch Kirill stood to deliver the sermon that traditionally ushers in the beginning of the Orthodox Lent. However, the most notable theme of his sermon had little to do with the annual period of Christian fasting. Instead, the patriarch chose to address a subject...
EXPLAINER: How is Russia-Ukraine war linked to religion?
While there have been appeals to religious nationalism on both sides of the Russia-Ukraine conflict, religious loyalty doesn’t mirror political fealty amid Ukraine’s fight for survival.
apnews.com
Vladimir Putin: a miracle defender of Christianity or the most evil man? | Tim Costello
The Russian president’s Orthodox faith is central to his worldview but he has used it to justify invasion and violence in God’s name
www.theguardian.com
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Israel 'preparing to strike Iranian NUCLEAR facilities' amid WW3 fears
ISRAEL is preparing to strike Iranian nuclear plants if faced with a revenge attack for the death of a top Tehran commander last week. Netanyahu’s war cabinet has been locked in crunch meetin…
www.the-sun.com
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Good! I hope they hit it. And I hope they hit it again just to be sure. I do not think Iran becoming a nuclear power is a good thing for anyone. If Israel is willing to do the dirty work required to set their timetable back then I wish them Godspeed.Israel 'preparing to strike Iranian NUCLEAR facilities' amid WW3 fears
ISRAEL is preparing to strike Iranian nuclear plants if faced with a revenge attack for the death of a top Tehran commander last week. Netanyahu’s war cabinet has been locked in crunch meetin…
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The Role of Religion in Russia’s War on Ukraine
On March 6, Russian Orthodox Patriarch Kirill stood to deliver the sermon that traditionally ushers in the beginning of the Orthodox Lent. However, the most notable theme of his sermon had little to do with the annual period of Christian fasting. Instead, the patriarch chose to address a subject...www.usip.org
EXPLAINER: How is Russia-Ukraine war linked to religion?
While there have been appeals to religious nationalism on both sides of the Russia-Ukraine conflict, religious loyalty doesn’t mirror political fealty amid Ukraine’s fight for survival.
Vladimir Putin: a miracle defender of Christianity or the most evil man? | Tim Costello
The Russian president’s Orthodox faith is central to his worldview but he has used it to justify invasion and violence in God’s name
She’s so vile
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I’m curious if secretly, Jordan, SA, and other major ME players are hoping that Israel does this. Shia dominated Iran having nukes isnt exactly a popular idea by Sunni dominated neighbors. In this respect, I’m guessing there’s a case to be made that Israel is doing what other ME countries wished they could do?Israel 'preparing to strike Iranian NUCLEAR facilities' amid WW3 fears
ISRAEL is preparing to strike Iranian nuclear plants if faced with a revenge attack for the death of a top Tehran commander last week. Netanyahu’s war cabinet has been locked in crunch meetin…
Red
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Live coverage of Iran’s attack on Israel.
news.sky.com
Iran launches operation 'True Promise' against Israel
Israeli media report that some of the projectiles have been shot down over Jordan and Syria. Iran had threatened to retaliate for an Israeli attack on one of its consulates in Syria.
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Let’s just relax before freaking out over a possible WWIII. We’ve been much closer before to that than here. What does Iran gain by launching an attack that had little chance of doing much damage to Israel? Early news reports say that they didn’t purposely target civilian centers and they knew that most of their weapons would be shot down. Why would they want to risk broadening a war?
My guess from the reading I’ve done is that this is more bluster than anything else. Now Iran can claim that they’ve supported some of their allies/terrorist groups without actually doing much.
The real issue for me is this:
View: https://x.com/speakerjohnson/status/1779273302114001181?s=46
This is so disingenuous. Instead of playing these games, Republicans should join with Democrats in supporting both of our allies, Ukraine and Israel, right now. As long as America is crippled by House Republicans who want chaos, it’s no wonder why America will be seen as weak and non-responsive to international events.
Don’t want a broader European war? Provide Ukraine with what it needs to send Putin’s boys packing back to their backwards hellhole. Don’t like what’s happening in Gaza? Give Israel what it needs to choke Hamas out. Hamas could end this today if they released the hostages.
My guess from the reading I’ve done is that this is more bluster than anything else. Now Iran can claim that they’ve supported some of their allies/terrorist groups without actually doing much.
The real issue for me is this:
View: https://x.com/speakerjohnson/status/1779273302114001181?s=46
This is so disingenuous. Instead of playing these games, Republicans should join with Democrats in supporting both of our allies, Ukraine and Israel, right now. As long as America is crippled by House Republicans who want chaos, it’s no wonder why America will be seen as weak and non-responsive to international events.
Don’t want a broader European war? Provide Ukraine with what it needs to send Putin’s boys packing back to their backwards hellhole. Don’t like what’s happening in Gaza? Give Israel what it needs to choke Hamas out. Hamas could end this today if they released the hostages.
SteakNEggs
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Didn't Biden free up billions for Iran?
Didn't Biden remove sanctions that allowed Iran to prosper and make tremendous amount for f money?
Didn't Biden open up the Nuclear Deal for Iran? I mean that's literally why Obama allowed Putin to meddle in our elections so he would sugnr the deal?
Wasn't it Biden who sent billions in unmarked bills to Iran in the dead of night.
It's not our fault your president got us into this mess. You go fight and spill blood. Why don't you donate? You all can't even afford your schooling or healthcare and you need me to pay for YOUR war?
Nah. This wouldn't have happend if you voted Trump. For once take accountability for yourself. We don't want your wars you so desperately crave.
And relax? Not with you all in charge. You have us in 3 wars in 3 years and have our DoJ saying that a terror attack on US soil is more than likely.
Biden is Giving Up Powerful U.S. Financial Sanctions on Iran
Since taking office, the Biden administration has taken a series of calculated steps to rejoin the Iran nuclear deal. Most recently, it waived sanctions on the Iranian oil trade, allowing Tehran access to frozen funds in foreign banks that it can now use to fund terrorism. Even the sanctions that remain on the books are not being enforced. U.S. financial sanctions can be used to end Iran's nuclear ambitions and the clerical regime's support of terrorism.As the world's preeminent financial power, the United States has a responsibility to work to deny Iran the financial resources it needs to build a nuclear program, develop ballistic missiles and support terrorism and terrorist proxies.
Sanctions generally aim to change behavior or deny the enemy something it wants for nefarious purposes. This economic and foreign policy tool is uniquely powerful for us, due to the importance of the dollar and the U.S. financial system.
In the modern global economy, every country needs to participate in the world's financial system. We are fortunate that the U.S. is at the center of that system. This position makes financial sanctions a powerful tool that the U.S. can use to curb the behavior of rogue nations like Iran. For example, the sanctions we imposed on Iranian oil in mid-2018 caused a precipitous drop in Iranian exports. These sanctions became even more meaningful in 2019 when the Trump administration announced that Japan, South Korea, Turkey, China and India would no longer be exempt from penalties if they continued to import oil from Iran. These sanctions alone deprived the regime of as much as $50 billion annually.
Biden is Giving Up Powerful U.S. Financial Sanctions on Iran
Since taking office, the Biden administration has taken a series of calculated steps to rejoin the Iran nuclear deal.
www.newsweek.com
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SteakNEggs
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I will say that it's refreshing to see Biden talk about a diplomatic end here. Sadly, the only reason he wants diplomacy with Iran is so that they can continue to give Russia jets and weapons. That 6 BILLION he freed and Biden getting rid of major sanctions up so Iran could fund Russia has been a blessing for Russia and Bidens friends in the larger scale.
Crazy how Bidens only call for Diplomacy is when it benefits the warmongers and Global elite. Trump on the other hand is asking for peace not more bloodshed like Thriller above. Another reason Trump is hated by the left. Peace is not an option with them. Riot, murder, abort, castrate, mutilate, KKK, chant "death to America" in Michigan.
The difference between peace loving MAGA and rioting and killing Democrats is astonishing. But again.. the Democrats since their inception by white supremacy have always been violent. This is undebatable.
Crazy how Bidens only call for Diplomacy is when it benefits the warmongers and Global elite. Trump on the other hand is asking for peace not more bloodshed like Thriller above. Another reason Trump is hated by the left. Peace is not an option with them. Riot, murder, abort, castrate, mutilate, KKK, chant "death to America" in Michigan.
The difference between peace loving MAGA and rioting and killing Democrats is astonishing. But again.. the Democrats since their inception by white supremacy have always been violent. This is undebatable.
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Israel’s Ynet News reported that Israeli officials said, “The fact that Iran for the first time attacks Israel from its territory requires a decisive response and one will come soon.”
“This will be the first direct attack from Iranian soil by Khamenei’s regime after years of murdering Israelis through his terror proxies,” said Mark Dubowitz, CEO of the Foundation for Defense of Democracies (FDD), a non-partisan institution focusing on national security and foreign policy.
“This will be the first direct attack from Iranian soil by Khamenei’s regime after years of murdering Israelis through his terror proxies,” said Mark Dubowitz, CEO of the Foundation for Defense of Democracies (FDD), a non-partisan institution focusing on national security and foreign policy.
“This will be the first direct attack from Iranian soil by Khamenei’s regime after years of murdering Israelis through his terror proxies,” said Mark Dubowitz, CEO of the Foundation for Defense of Democracies (FDD), a non-partisan institution focusing on national security and foreign policy.
“This will be the first direct attack from Iranian soil by Khamenei’s regime after years of murdering Israelis through his terror proxies,” said Mark Dubowitz, CEO of the Foundation for Defense of Democracies (FDD), a non-partisan institution focusing on national security and foreign policy.
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More war mongering and feeding the meat grinder
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As Israel on Monday weighed its response to Iran's stunning attacks this weekend, the U.S. is privately telling officials there: If Israel strikes back militarily, it will do so alone.
It's an unusual message for a close ally that's spent decades receiving more US military aid than any other country in the world and whose relationship with America is often described as "ironclad."
But after months of Israel acting on its own in Gaza -- and facing tough criticism from the U.S. and other allies that its military operations have gone too far – the Biden administration made clear the U.S. wouldn't participate in offensive military operations against Iran, fearing a broader war in the Middle East.
Fearing a broader war with the middle east? Isn't that exactly what the war mongering and meat grinder feeding biden administration wants?
US to Israel: If you strike back at Iran, you'll do it alone
As Israel on Monday weighed its response to Iran's stunning attacks this weekend, the U.S. is privately telling officials there: If Israel strikes back militarily, it will do so alone. It's an unusual message for a close ally that's spent decades receiving more US military aid than any other...
As Israel on Monday weighed its response to Iran's stunning attacks this weekend, the U.S. is privately telling officials there: If Israel strikes back militarily, it will do so alone.
It's an unusual message for a close ally that's spent decades receiving more US military aid than any other country in the world and whose relationship with America is often described as "ironclad."
But after months of Israel acting on its own in Gaza -- and facing tough criticism from the U.S. and other allies that its military operations have gone too far – the Biden administration made clear the U.S. wouldn't participate in offensive military operations against Iran, fearing a broader war in the Middle East.
Fearing a broader war with the middle east? Isn't that exactly what the war mongering and meat grinder feeding biden administration wants?
Al-O-Meter
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Yes. It is why the Biden administration gave Iran the green light to launch the attack. Iran gave all of the militaries involved 72-hours notice of when the attack on Israel would happen. This isn't a wild conspiracy theory as Turkey, Jordan, and Iraq have all confirmed the advanced notice.
Israel discusses retaliation after Iran says it gave allies advanced notice of attack | The National
Netanyahu's war cabinet discussed 'painful' options that would avoid full-scale war, according to media reports
www.thenationalnews.com
That began a negotiation on what kind of attack Iran would be allowed to conduct on Israel. Iran had their proxy group Hezbollah right on the border with tens of thousands of drones, missiles and rockets but they fired zero. Instead all of the ordinance was fired exclusively from thousands of miles away in Yemen, Iraq, and Iran so the attack could be shot down.
US Secretary of Defense Lloyd Austin denied that Iran gave them advanced notice only for Turkey's Foreign Minister to call BS saying he was on the phone with the US personally about this issue coordinating in advance. US Secretary of Defense Lloyd Austin then clarified that the United States "did not receive notice of the attack 72 hours in advance" meaning the advance notice wasn't exactly 72 hours before the attack.
When an enemy tells you they are going to attack an ally and you give them the approval to go ahead with the attack, that is mohr meatgrinder. There wouldn't be an Israeli response if there weren't an attack. What you are parroting is the Biden administration propaganda that has been deliberately floated in the press which after any Israeli military response will allow the Biden administration to claim they told Israel not to attack Iran so Biden doesn't lose the "Death to America" voters in Michigan.
SteakNEggs
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100% yes... I alredy explained this. Biden needs Iran to fund and provide Russia with arms and weapons to keep your Ukraine war going for as long as possible... Biden and Obama(Bidens real handler) need Iran to stay afloat as they are a key player in your war you love and cherish.More war mongering and feeding the meat grinder
US to Israel: If you strike back at Iran, you'll do it alone
As Israel on Monday weighed its response to Iran's stunning attacks this weekend, the U.S. is privately telling officials there: If Israel strikes back militarily, it will do so alone. It's an unusual message for a close ally that's spent decades receiving more US military aid than any other...
As Israel on Monday weighed its response to Iran's stunning attacks this weekend, the U.S. is privately telling officials there: If Israel strikes back militarily, it will do so alone.
It's an unusual message for a close ally that's spent decades receiving more US military aid than any other country in the world and whose relationship with America is often described as "ironclad."
But after months of Israel acting on its own in Gaza -- and facing tough criticism from the U.S. and other allies that its military operations have gone too far – the Biden administration made clear the U.S. wouldn't participate in offensive military operations against Iran, fearing a broader war in the Middle East.
Fearing a broader war with the middle east? Isn't that exactly what the war mongering and meat grinder feeding biden administration wants?
Not surprised that you went from "any country that invades another country needs our money and resources no matter what. It doesn't matter what countries but America has to help every war ever" to "meh invasions are ok when Iran does it".
Me, I actually applaud Bidens diplomatic approach and putting his foot down. This is the first time he's actually went in with a plan, ever. As I said yesterday unfortunately the only reason he is doing this is because Obama and him areso heavily invested in Iran and all the evil they bring. At the end of the day Obama let Putin meddle in our elections(this is 100% factual, I'd love to debate you on it) to give Iran power and nuclear capability. Global elite can't just throw that and the billions upon billions of unmarked bills and literally allowing Iran into our banking system like Obama out the window. Obama worked hard for that.
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Easiest thing to feed the meat grinder would just send troops right now and bomb the hell out of Iran.
Wonder why Biden doesn't just feed that meat grinder. I mean I don't recall much meat going into the grinder from the Iran attack.
But now there is justification for lots of meat to be ground up.
Weird that it isn't. Wonder what Biden is waiting for.
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Wonder why Biden doesn't just feed that meat grinder. I mean I don't recall much meat going into the grinder from the Iran attack.
But now there is justification for lots of meat to be ground up.
Weird that it isn't. Wonder what Biden is waiting for.
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So far it sounds like (according to Al) the plan was for Biden to tell Iran to attack Israel so that Iran could waste some 300 missiles, do no real damage (no meat!) and get embarrassed by looking futile and impotent in the process.
If you aren't a fan of iran then that went quite well. Well done!
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If you aren't a fan of iran then that went quite well. Well done!
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Already explained this as well. The only fan of Iran is Obama and Biden...... They literally paid for this.... Where do you think they are getting all of this money they didn't have until Biden gave them access. We have been saying this was going to happen for years and you laughed. Pay attention for once but in reality this is faaaaaaaaar too complex for you.
Since taking office, the Biden administration has taken a series of calculated steps to rejoin the Iran nuclear deal. Most recently, it waived sanctions on the Iranian oil trade, allowing Tehran access to frozen funds in foreign banks that it can now use to fund terrorism. Even the sanctions that remain on the books are not being enforced. U.S. financial sanctions can be used to end Iran's nuclear ambitions and the clerical regime's support of terrorism.
As the world's preeminent financial power, the United States has a responsibility to work to deny Iran the financial resources it needs to build a nuclear program, develop ballistic missiles and support terrorism and terrorist proxies.
Sanctions generally aim to change behavior or deny the enemy something it wants for nefarious purposes. This economic and foreign policy tool is uniquely powerful for us, due to the importance of the dollar and the U.S. financial system.
In the modern global economy, every country needs to participate in the world's financial system. We are fortunate that the U.S. is at the center of that system. This position makes financial sanctions a powerful tool that the U.S. can use to curb the behavior of rogue nations like Iran. For example, the sanctions we imposed on Iranian oil in mid-2018 caused a precipitous drop in Iranian exports. These sanctions became even more meaningful in 2019 when the Trump administration announced that Japan, South Korea, Turkey, China and India would no longer be exempt from penalties if they continued to import oil from Iran. These sanctions alone deprived the regime of as much as $50 billion annually.
Biden is Giving Up Powerful U.S. Financial Sanctions on Iran
Since taking office, the Biden administration has taken a series of calculated steps to rejoin the Iran nuclear deal.
www.newsweek.com
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Weird how iran loving biden made iran waste weapons and look like fools.
SteakNEggs
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Weapons he bought them. Now he will free up billions more for them. You fail to understand that Biden has been playing all sides of the war you love and cherish, I've explained this to you many many many times but you're too busy obsessing about Trump in your addiction. Now again, I wouldn't expect nothing more than passive aggressive one liners as you don't have the ability to debate anything reminding me of my 5-year-old, but I'll still at least try to educate you. Trumps strict sanctions are why Iran was held at bay, Biden is literally responsible for funding this. We have been calling this for years.
Biden’s $90 Billion Bailout to Tehran
U.S. President Joe Biden has inherited a relatively peaceful Middle East—not without its challenges—but one marked by historic peace agreements between several Arab countries and Israel after decades without movement on the recognition of Israel. Conversely, through U.S. sanctions and Iran’s own ineptitude and mismanagement of the COVID-19 pandemic, Iran’s economy has been left paralyzed and vulnerable. From a negotiating perspective, Biden has plenty of leverage.
Yet last week, the Wall Street Journal reported the Biden administration is considering lifting terrorism-related sanctions on the Central Bank of Iran. In other words, after promising in congressional testimony for a longer and stronger deal with Iran, Biden’s diplomatic team is instead rushing toward accommodation. Although returning to the JCPOA will not happen overnight, it could easily happen this year. And if Biden returns the United States to a JCPOA 2.0, it could reverse positive momentum in the Middle East by destabilizing the peaceful balance of power Biden inherited.
Biden’s $90 Billion Bailout to Tehran
Rejoining the Iran deal could undo years of progress in the Middle East.
foreignpolicy.com
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