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Its Time to Tank

idiot said:
I'll stand by my statement. Tankers are convinced that a high pick is the path to the best possible rebuild -- among many tanking advocates so much so that any other strategy pales by comparison.

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You can think that but that just isnt what we have been posting or saying. HH, myself, and jingled are 3 examples of tankers who often post of other ways this rebuild can work and who often are happy when the jazz win.


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idiot said:
I'll stand by my statement. Tankers are convinced that a high pick is the path to the best possible rebuild -- among many tanking advocates so much so that any other strategy pales by comparison.

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It clearly is.

The issue to clearly tank you have to get rid of a lot of good players for less than great value. So it's hard to get the best of both worlds.
 
fishonjazz said:
Nah, I think tankers think that the best way to increase the odds of having a better draft pick is to lose. And they think having a better draft pick is more likely to help the team get more talented than having a worse draft pick. I dont think anyone thinks losing is the only possible strategy. I think you are being silly.
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The rebuild is a soup… tanking (or getting very high draft picks) is a key ingredient to most rebuilds…can you have a good soup without the ingredient… sure. If all the ode is equal though… let’s go ahead and add the best ingredients possible.
 
fishonjazz said:
You can think that but that just isnt what we have been posting or saying. HH, myself, and jingled are 3 examples of tankers who often post of other ways this rebuild can work and who often are happy when the jazz win.


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The anti tankers always throw in absolutes and dumb assumptions that aren’t really true. At this point the best thing for the long term health of the franchise is giving ourselves a better shot at landing a high level young player… having a better pick or better odds at an amazing pick provides that. The doe is cast as far as the current roster goes so we kinda have to play it as it lays. Maybe we end up with a better player at 12 than 8? It’s plausible… it’s not a reason to prefer a couple additional wins imo. It’s pretty simple. If we giving ourselves a 7-8% chance at Wemby and a 25% chance at top 4 it could be a franchise changer. It’s so obviously the preferred path.
 
Handlogten's Heros said:
The anti tankers always throw in absolutes and dumb assumptions that aren’t really true. At this point the best thing for the long term health of the franchise is giving ourselves a better shot at landing a high level young player… having a better pick or better odds at an amazing pick provides that. The doe is cast as far as the current roster goes so we kinda have to play it as it lays. Maybe we end up with a better player at 12 than 8? It’s plausible… it’s not a reason to prefer a couple additional wins imo. It’s pretty simple. If we giving ourselves a 7-8% chance at Wemby and a 25% chance at top 4 it could be a franchise changer. It’s so obviously the preferred path.
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The problem for us is getting to those odds. And even if we somehow managed to do it, they are still not good odds. We just have to let this thing play out and give our young guys a lot of minutes. Also, we shouldn't forget the value of play-in experience for our young group if we get to go there.

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