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elan_prodigy
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How late was Oneal on that! Dude misses though so no one cares.
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Rubashov: yeah joe johnson could still play back then
Saint: he doesnt lol
oneye: AB get that value up
Saint: i mean, every player doesnt convert every assist oppurtunity
MDAV28: What is assists success rate? Is that just a person making/missing a shot off a pass?
Zombie: Boozeresque and one! by blake
oneye: oh come on two perfect passes tonight Favors just didn’t handle
yamers: burks should have passed
yamers: he's just so stupid
yamers: burks is your ideal example of amazing skill
Ellipse: That play illustrates why Burks spends so much time on the bench.
yamers: bottlenecked by mental break damage
Saint: yes
Saint: Yeah, every player throws good passes that people dont make
MDAV28: That Favors pass wouldn't count would it though?
Saint: Donovan's passes have really good successs rate for assist compard to most players
MDAV28: In the assist success rate formula
oneye: Well agree to disagree
Saint: its not agree/disagree
Saint: its a stat you can go look at
Zombie: It's like a measurement of shot percentage off similar passes
oneye: You’re right but it happens far too often when you have teammates that can’t shoot vs ones who dcan
Saint: IT HAPPENS LESS OFTEN THAN IT HAPPENS TO MOST PLAYERS
Jazzta: Neto!
oneye: I’ve heard Locke bring up the number. Every night there’s give me shots off his passes that they either fumble or miss
Hekate: Neto has been good this year
Saint: we just think about it so much because we only care about Donovan
Saint: so every miss sticks in your mind
oneye: your stat doesn’t take into account shots that don’t even make it up like when favors or Gobert mishandle and turn over the ball
Saint: but it happens to every player
Saint: dude, you can ignore reality
Rubashov: he's mostly been injured this year
Saint: if you want, but that isnt really isnt a subjective thing, you can go look it up
Zombie: Neto with that block haha
MDAV28: 39 pt quarter sheesh
Ellipse: Could drive by AB.
Hekate: yeah we sucked a lot when he was injured
Ellipse: *good
MDAV28: Clippers defense doesn't look great but still offense looked better than ever
MT: BURKS!
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Saint: he doesnt lol
oneye: AB get that value up
Saint: i mean, every player doesnt convert every assist oppurtunity
MDAV28: What is assists success rate? Is that just a person making/missing a shot off a pass?
Zombie: Boozeresque and one! by blake
oneye: oh come on two perfect passes tonight Favors just didn’t handle
yamers: burks should have passed
yamers: he's just so stupid
yamers: burks is your ideal example of amazing skill
Ellipse: That play illustrates why Burks spends so much time on the bench.
yamers: bottlenecked by mental break damage
Saint: yes
Saint: Yeah, every player throws good passes that people dont make
MDAV28: That Favors pass wouldn't count would it though?
Saint: Donovan's passes have really good successs rate for assist compard to most players
MDAV28: In the assist success rate formula
oneye: Well agree to disagree
Saint: its not agree/disagree
Saint: its a stat you can go look at
Zombie: It's like a measurement of shot percentage off similar passes
oneye: You’re right but it happens far too often when you have teammates that can’t shoot vs ones who dcan
Saint: IT HAPPENS LESS OFTEN THAN IT HAPPENS TO MOST PLAYERS
Jazzta: Neto!
oneye: I’ve heard Locke bring up the number. Every night there’s give me shots off his passes that they either fumble or miss
Hekate: Neto has been good this year
Saint: we just think about it so much because we only care about Donovan
Saint: so every miss sticks in your mind
oneye: your stat doesn’t take into account shots that don’t even make it up like when favors or Gobert mishandle and turn over the ball
Saint: but it happens to every player
Saint: dude, you can ignore reality
Rubashov: he's mostly been injured this year
Saint: if you want, but that isnt really isnt a subjective thing, you can go look it up
Zombie: Neto with that block haha
MDAV28: 39 pt quarter sheesh
Ellipse: Could drive by AB.
Hekate: yeah we sucked a lot when he was injured
Ellipse: *good
MDAV28: Clippers defense doesn't look great but still offense looked better than ever
MT: BURKS!
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elan_prodigy
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Nice AB.
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oneye: I know the stat you’re talking about, it doesn’t tell the whole story
Jazzta: Wow AB
Saint: it tells the whole story
oneye: It’s points scored off of his passes and yes it is high I know
Rubashov: could hear quin barking at AB
Zombie: Talk about ignoring objective reality mr "Joe Johnson can be a positive player"
Jazzta: 39 pts in the 1st
Hekate: I thought AB would get blocked there
Saint: if you care about the rare time when a player turn a pass over, then wow, those arent frequent enough happenings that it would be that impactful
yamers: blind squirel anology
Saint: no its not points scored off his passes
oneye: It’s not rare
yamers: the tank will be back on
Saint: its the FG% players shoot on potential assist
yamers: is austin rivers out?
MDAV28: Rivers has been hurt for a while now
oneye: Yes it’s one of the highest in the league, that doesn’t mean it shouldn’t be higher
Rubashov: what are the rumours about hood being moved?
MDAV28: I'm surprised DeAndre is out. He is never hurt it seems like
yamers: nothing
oneye: Yes Rivers was on the bench barking in the locker room fiasco game
Jazzta: I heard that, and I don't really like it
yamers: i think Jordan is out
yamers: to give him a break
yamers: cos the clippers know the jazz are awful
Saint: hell Rubioo shoots 37% on 3pt shots when he getse a pass from Mitchell
Saint: thats way above his average
MDAV28: No I doubt it, deandre doesn't sit ususally
Saint: and you are complaing about people missing shots on his passes lmao
oneye: Easy catchable passes yes
oneye: ISO Joe is not all it’s cracked up to be
MDAV28: I wonder what the Millers think when they see that they're paying over 20 million to JJ and Burks
oneye: Eh there’s teams paying for worse
MDAV28: There's teams that are much more profitable too
sojodave: Why does Quin feel he has to force it into Iso Joe every time
oneye: True
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Jazzta: Wow AB
Saint: it tells the whole story
oneye: It’s points scored off of his passes and yes it is high I know
Rubashov: could hear quin barking at AB
Zombie: Talk about ignoring objective reality mr "Joe Johnson can be a positive player"
Jazzta: 39 pts in the 1st
Hekate: I thought AB would get blocked there
Saint: if you care about the rare time when a player turn a pass over, then wow, those arent frequent enough happenings that it would be that impactful
yamers: blind squirel anology
Saint: no its not points scored off his passes
oneye: It’s not rare
yamers: the tank will be back on
Saint: its the FG% players shoot on potential assist
yamers: is austin rivers out?
MDAV28: Rivers has been hurt for a while now
oneye: Yes it’s one of the highest in the league, that doesn’t mean it shouldn’t be higher
Rubashov: what are the rumours about hood being moved?
MDAV28: I'm surprised DeAndre is out. He is never hurt it seems like
yamers: nothing
oneye: Yes Rivers was on the bench barking in the locker room fiasco game
Jazzta: I heard that, and I don't really like it
yamers: i think Jordan is out
yamers: to give him a break
yamers: cos the clippers know the jazz are awful
Saint: hell Rubioo shoots 37% on 3pt shots when he getse a pass from Mitchell
Saint: thats way above his average
MDAV28: No I doubt it, deandre doesn't sit ususally
Saint: and you are complaing about people missing shots on his passes lmao
oneye: Easy catchable passes yes
oneye: ISO Joe is not all it’s cracked up to be
MDAV28: I wonder what the Millers think when they see that they're paying over 20 million to JJ and Burks
oneye: Eh there’s teams paying for worse
MDAV28: There's teams that are much more profitable too
sojodave: Why does Quin feel he has to force it into Iso Joe every time
oneye: True
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Tak
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Too much ball watching and too little scoring was Alec's problems before this game, let's see if he can change it tonight.
elan_prodigy
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Oneal TO. Scrub. To the DH.
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Im shocked by Rubios lack of passing and court awareness at times.
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oneye: It’s just a veteran respect thing for Joe
Zombie: It can be true that players shoot better than their.percentages off.passes from Mitchell and that they often miss easy looks he creates for them
Jazzta: That was a charge man
oneye: Get that value up AB
Zombie: I'm also fairly certain Utah is playing Joe Johnson to showcase him
MDAV28: I thought that... until he was so awful
MDAV28: It's having the reverse effect
oneye: I just don’t thing JJ is worth much
Zombie: He is so bad on defense tho
Jazzta: I don't think Quin thinks about having to showcase a player
Zombie: But some teams might be able to fool themselves into.thinking he makes it.up on offense
oneye: I hope so
MDAV28: I think FOs are too smart to think JJ is of value
oneye: i mainly think he’ll just be walking in the offseason though
MDAV28: He'd be a negative on any team
yamers: rubio has made it further than any mexican in the NBA ever has
Zombie: Then why is he getting minutes on this team?
yamers: burks just said, GET IN DER HOE
MDAV28: I ask myself that everyday when we had Sef
Jazzta: Thabo is out
Zombie: Is Snyder just dumber than everyone else
oneye: A respect thing, you want him to say he enjoyed it here not buried on the bench and bitter
Zombie: Sure, but he was getting minutes before
MDAV28: But with Sef out we only kind've have 2 PFs w/ Favors playing mostly C minutes
Zombie: And.I.think the respect.thing.Is overplayed
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Zombie: It can be true that players shoot better than their.percentages off.passes from Mitchell and that they often miss easy looks he creates for them
Jazzta: That was a charge man
oneye: Get that value up AB
Zombie: I'm also fairly certain Utah is playing Joe Johnson to showcase him
MDAV28: I thought that... until he was so awful
MDAV28: It's having the reverse effect
oneye: I just don’t thing JJ is worth much
Zombie: He is so bad on defense tho
Jazzta: I don't think Quin thinks about having to showcase a player
Zombie: But some teams might be able to fool themselves into.thinking he makes it.up on offense
oneye: I hope so
MDAV28: I think FOs are too smart to think JJ is of value
oneye: i mainly think he’ll just be walking in the offseason though
MDAV28: He'd be a negative on any team
yamers: rubio has made it further than any mexican in the NBA ever has
Zombie: Then why is he getting minutes on this team?
yamers: burks just said, GET IN DER HOE
MDAV28: I ask myself that everyday when we had Sef
Jazzta: Thabo is out
Zombie: Is Snyder just dumber than everyone else
oneye: A respect thing, you want him to say he enjoyed it here not buried on the bench and bitter
Zombie: Sure, but he was getting minutes before
MDAV28: But with Sef out we only kind've have 2 PFs w/ Favors playing mostly C minutes
Zombie: And.I.think the respect.thing.Is overplayed
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elan_prodigy
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Oneal BAD foul. The joys of not being AB.
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Oh Spida that was nice..
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oneye: I’m sure JJ expects and wants playing time
yamers: i wonder if mitchel
yamers: is struggling cos the lineup
Saint: Johnson played well lsat night
yamers: can't find his flow
Saint: and tonight
Jazzta: ^
MDAV28: As we talk about it Snyder pulls JJ
Zombie: He played well on one side of the floor last night
Saint: Quin justh as to play him w/ the right line ups
MDAV28: What game is he watching? Wtf Johnson has been awful
Saint: JJ didnt play d last year either
Zombie: He was.getting abused by beasly tho
Saint: sure
Saint: but he also got great looks on offense
Zombie: I think Joe Johnson is fine when matched up against non rangey of a
Ellipse: Lol I thought DM was passing the ball on that layup.
Saint: and hit most of them unitl the end
oneye: JJs defense does blow
Saint: no **** it blows
Jazzta: Wow DM, how he kept the ball up out of range
Saint: its not about if his D is good or not
Saint: is if the offense with him outplays how bd the D is
Saint: for as much as people wnt to bitch about joe last night
Saint: he was a positive plus/minus
MDAV28: Joe's offense does not outperform his defense
MDAV28: Not even last night
oneye: Last night he was fine. 9/10 nights though he’s not
yamers: mitchel with the RAAAAAAAAAAKE N TAKE
Saint: yes it did last night
Saint: until the end
Saint: he just missed good shots
Zombie: I think in certain matchups his offense can offset his defense
Saint: people ar ejust bitching out of control cuz he missed 2 shots he usually makes
Zombie: But I mean he is
Saint: when he gets more minutes w/ GObert, he will play better
MT: has anybody else noticed
MT: that mitchell is good at basketball
Zombie: Nah dude people are bitching about him missing shots
Saint: they shouldnt
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yamers: i wonder if mitchel
yamers: is struggling cos the lineup
Saint: Johnson played well lsat night
yamers: can't find his flow
Saint: and tonight
Jazzta: ^
MDAV28: As we talk about it Snyder pulls JJ
Zombie: He played well on one side of the floor last night
Saint: Quin justh as to play him w/ the right line ups
MDAV28: What game is he watching? Wtf Johnson has been awful
Saint: JJ didnt play d last year either
Zombie: He was.getting abused by beasly tho
Saint: sure
Saint: but he also got great looks on offense
Zombie: I think Joe Johnson is fine when matched up against non rangey of a
Ellipse: Lol I thought DM was passing the ball on that layup.
Saint: and hit most of them unitl the end
oneye: JJs defense does blow
Saint: no **** it blows
Jazzta: Wow DM, how he kept the ball up out of range
Saint: its not about if his D is good or not
Saint: is if the offense with him outplays how bd the D is
Saint: for as much as people wnt to bitch about joe last night
Saint: he was a positive plus/minus
MDAV28: Joe's offense does not outperform his defense
MDAV28: Not even last night
oneye: Last night he was fine. 9/10 nights though he’s not
yamers: mitchel with the RAAAAAAAAAAKE N TAKE
Saint: yes it did last night
Saint: until the end
Saint: he just missed good shots
Zombie: I think in certain matchups his offense can offset his defense
Saint: people ar ejust bitching out of control cuz he missed 2 shots he usually makes
Zombie: But I mean he is
Saint: when he gets more minutes w/ GObert, he will play better
MT: has anybody else noticed
MT: that mitchell is good at basketball
Zombie: Nah dude people are bitching about him missing shots
Saint: they shouldnt
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elan_prodigy
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Nice denial AB. Getting it done on both ends.
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MDAV28: People are bitching about him being a negative player. Because he is
Zombie: They are bitching about how other teams target.him every time down the floor
Ellipse: LOL Did JJ teach Mitchell that step back jumper?
Saint: He hasnt gotten to play next to helathy gobert
Saint: Johnson is more reliant on Gobrt than anyone else on the roster
Zombie: He played with a very healthy looking Gobert and got torched last night on defense
yamers: that rubio yelp everytime he goes for a layup
yamers: YELP
oneye: Rubio gets no calls because he flops a lot too
Saint: he was a positive plus/minus last night
MT: Rubio's yelp when he falls during contact
Zombie: Also him getting beat takes Rudy out of position too often
MT: cracks me up everytime
Zombie: So, yeah, Rudy can cover him a bit, but the defense still suffers for it
Saint: Rudy/Johnson was our best 2 man lineup last year
Saint: they havent gotten to play together healthy this year
Saint: peopel forget
Zombie: Key word when you are talking about a 36 year old
Zombie: Last year
bigmike: team playing really fluid tonight
yamers: of course
yamers: favors fumbles it
MT: man who cares if jj's defense is poor this season. We aren't making the playoffs, and the dude won us a series last year. Why bench him
bigmike: how good is donovan's passing tonight
oneye: Don’t worry he gets the next one
Saint: johnson hsnt lost that much this year
Saint: he just hasnt played w/ gobert
Ellipse: Mitchell playing great tonight.
MDAV28: True if we want to lose JJ is our man I'll give him that
Zombie: I don't think we should bench him, I think we should play him in matchup he can succeed and try.to. Get some assets for him
Saint: smfh
Saint: people dont get Gobert enough credit. JOhnson looked done on Miami before he came to Utah
Saint: you know who revived his career?
Saint: Rudy Gobert
MDAV28: Act like Gobert somehow makes JJ's shot go in
Saint: Rudy makes spacing on offense
MT: I don't think he looked done in Miami
MDAV28: He gets plenty of space
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Zombie: They are bitching about how other teams target.him every time down the floor
Ellipse: LOL Did JJ teach Mitchell that step back jumper?
Saint: He hasnt gotten to play next to helathy gobert
Saint: Johnson is more reliant on Gobrt than anyone else on the roster
Zombie: He played with a very healthy looking Gobert and got torched last night on defense
yamers: that rubio yelp everytime he goes for a layup
yamers: YELP
oneye: Rubio gets no calls because he flops a lot too
Saint: he was a positive plus/minus last night
MT: Rubio's yelp when he falls during contact
Zombie: Also him getting beat takes Rudy out of position too often
MT: cracks me up everytime
Zombie: So, yeah, Rudy can cover him a bit, but the defense still suffers for it
Saint: Rudy/Johnson was our best 2 man lineup last year
Saint: they havent gotten to play together healthy this year
Saint: peopel forget
Zombie: Key word when you are talking about a 36 year old
Zombie: Last year
bigmike: team playing really fluid tonight
yamers: of course
yamers: favors fumbles it
MT: man who cares if jj's defense is poor this season. We aren't making the playoffs, and the dude won us a series last year. Why bench him
bigmike: how good is donovan's passing tonight
oneye: Don’t worry he gets the next one
Saint: johnson hsnt lost that much this year
Saint: he just hasnt played w/ gobert
Ellipse: Mitchell playing great tonight.
MDAV28: True if we want to lose JJ is our man I'll give him that
Zombie: I don't think we should bench him, I think we should play him in matchup he can succeed and try.to. Get some assets for him
Saint: smfh
Saint: people dont get Gobert enough credit. JOhnson looked done on Miami before he came to Utah
Saint: you know who revived his career?
Saint: Rudy Gobert
MDAV28: Act like Gobert somehow makes JJ's shot go in
Saint: Rudy makes spacing on offense
MT: I don't think he looked done in Miami
MDAV28: He gets plenty of space
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