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Las Vegas: Worst Mass Shooting in US History

Just enforcing our current laws would be helpful and shutting down loopholes such as gun shows. We will never ban all guns in this country. Conservative lawyers fighting for quite awhile to make sure that our amendment is about individual gun ownership and not about militia's gun possession like it was intended has secured that.

These fully automatic guns that are already banned need to be prevented from being bought and sold though.

Fully auto guns are so expensive, and so highly regulated that it's not a huge issue imo.
 
Yep, tons of ******** out there being spread by people with an agenda.

It's funny to me that some people complain about fake news, yet are willing to repeat something they read on twitter by random strangers as if it had any credibility at all. Why? Because that little bit of info happens to support their own personal view points.

So yeah, rather than do what Archie did, it might make more sense to wait on details before reporting some stupid **** you came across on the internet.

Except, I didn't report it as facts and went out of my way to say so - to create discussion. If you wanna get all butt-hurt cause I shared things I read about the shooting (literally said I just read this, guys, not sure if true gonna check more sources) to create discussion then go for it. I'm not trying to pass it off as real news and the fact you're so bothered by what I posted says all I need to know. You can't read worth ****, dude.
P.S. I'm not a reporter or journalist. This is a discussion forum.
 
Fully auto guns are so expensive, and so highly regulated that it's not a huge issue imo.
They are still easy to purchase despite the laws. It's easy to convert semi into autos that needs to be shut down. They are being used in mass shooting so they are still a problem. We also need background checks to be enforced that are not or easy to get around. As well as other laws. There is a pretty direct correlation between number of guns owned and mass shootings by country and by States within the country that has by far the most mass shootings.
 
Lol he's a multimillionaire who got his guns in St. George
 
A civil war over gun rights is not equatable to a civil war over slavery.

Frankly this whole "it'll be a CIVIL war" nonsense is ****ing non sense. Quit daydreaming, a state militia could immobilize any ****ing guerrilla group that tried arming and firing on people who disagreed with them. And it wouldn't go that far anyways-- this is just a scare tactic to paralyze progress. I don't have patience for that. I don't give a **** if I'm hurting some dudes feelings just because he *********** to the thought of firearms
 
The gorilla in the room is the mental health crisis in America really. I mean we still don't know much about this guy but in most other cases it has been disturbed individuals, often people who were at one point and probably still should have been under a psychiatrist's care. We really need better dialogue around how to deal with our crappy mental health system if we truly want to make inroads into stopping these kinds of events.
 
The gorilla in the room is the mental health crisis in America really. I mean we still don't know much about this guy but in most other cases it has been disturbed individuals, often people who were at one point and probably still should have been under a psychiatrist's care. We really need better dialogue around how to deal with our crappy mental health system if we truly want to make inroads into stopping these kinds of events.

I agree, we need better metal health care and less negative stigmas towards people with mental issues.
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His dad was a bank robber on the FBI's most wanted list in the 70s when he escaped prison. He was listed as psychotic. Mental health issues can be hereditary.
 
Civil war is impossible. The military is too strong.

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I don't know a ton of active or ex-military personnel but the ones I have known all have guns and most have a Charlton Heston pry it from my cold dead hands attitude. These dudes will not be willing to shoot their neighbors in order to take their guns from them. If States were to split into factions it seems likely the military would as well. It's probably fanciful thinking to imagine the military remaining unified in such a scenario. Our military capability is so powerful that you're probably right that there wouldn't be civil war. Either some compromise would be reached or the country would split in two with nobody willing to enforce national unity(much too high a cost).
 
They are still easy to purchase despite the laws. It's easy to convert semi into autos that needs to be shut down. They are being used in mass shooting so they are still a problem. We also need background checks to be enforced that are not or easy to get around. As well as other laws. There is a pretty direct correlation between number of guns owned and mass shootings by country and by States within the country that has by far the most mass shootings.

Easy?

You have almost a year of waiting from clearance from the ATF (that entails a full federal background check that they take quite seriously), and that's just for a license. Then you're spending a minimum of 5 figures for a rifle. I think including this, they've been used in a mass shooting 3 times.
 
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