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NPC D4617 said:
The world doesnt despise us because of Trump. They like us more. They are rooting on Trump because he is the peace maker. The world despises the Democrats(the war mongering socialists). Literally North Korea said as much and is becoming a more peaceful nation because of Trump. Democratic clowns were going to get us into a nuclear war.

See how detached you really are. You dont even understand whats happening in the world.
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I can be very naive at times, but even I can see that this has to be over the top trolling. I don't believe anyone can seriously claim this is the state of the world today. Claiming the Democrats were going to war with North Korea may stem from this absurd statement from Trump's address announcing his state of emergency:

"I don't want to speak for him(Obama), but I believe he would've gone to war with North Korea. I think he was ready to go to war. In fact he told me he was so close to starting a big war with North Korea," Trump said.

Who on Earth would believe that Trump was being truthful in that claim?! Trump simply invents his own reality on the spur of the moment, here talking for Obama after saying he didn't want to talk for Obama. One of his more absurd claims in that looney tune of an address. When there's no teleprompter, listeners can expect a trip through Fantasyland.

The Trump presidency is the government episode of The Apprentice. It's like a Philip K. Dick novel, alternate history of all the wrong kind. Celebrity culture and political culture meeting at a junction in American history. But the celebrity is the nadir, and the junction is a low point of both cultures. When presidents are marketed, some get what they fall for. The rest of us got a lemon.
 
Is this the right thread to bring this up?



It's not surprising in the least of course, that Trump would be willing to take a dictator 'at his word,' but it's no less shameful.
 
Zombie said:
Is this the right thread to bring this up?



It's not surprising in the least of course, that Trump would be willing to take a dictator 'at his word,' but it's no less shameful.
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Why is it important to you? A kid went to North Korea. Stupid. Kid stole something. Stupid. Kid dies of disease. Parents make wild claims that were refuted by the coroner. Stupid. Trump comments on it.

That's as about as unimportant as it gets. Making something out of every nothing burger is petty.
 
idestroyedthetoilet said:
Why is it important to you? A kid went to North Korea. Stupid. Kid stole something. Stupid. Kid dies of disease. Parents make wild claims that were refuted by the coroner. Stupid. Trump comments on it.

That's as about as unimportant as it gets. Making something out of every nothing burger is petty.
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Yeah, I think we should expect a little better of our president than to be taking dictators at their word, especially with regard to their treatment of American citizens imprisoned on trumped up charges.
 
Zombie said:
Yeah, I think we should expect a little better of our president than to be taking dictators at their word, especially with regard to their treatment of American citizens imprisoned on trumped up charges.
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If It's petty to even bring this up, and I don't believe it is, well, then many Republicans are being petty about the very same thing. I mean, it is not exactly an example of putting "America First", and it's part of an obvious pattern on Trump's part. A pattern of supporting dictators, and a pattern of ignoring human rights abuses. OK, so under Trump, human rights abuses are going to always take a back seat. So that's his idea of what used to be called "real politic". It should still be expected that many will obviously see that as trashing American values. That really cannot be helped, nor is it petty.

And Republicans are just as "outraged" that he would flip on this. In his 2018 State of the Union, he had Warmbier's parents as guests. So of course it's jarring to see him flip on it, and, really, he did not have to, it was an unforced error on his part.

Why in God's name would being outraged that he would take Kim's word on this be described as "petty"? Seeing our own good values trashed is petty?

Sure an argument could easily be made that we have been hypocrites where human rights are concerned, so maybe it's naive to think we're the "good guys". But many of us still believe that, that we are the "good guys", the guys in the "white hats", so Trump's pattern of praising and supporting dictators is bound to be jarring, not petty.

https://thehill.com/homenews/senate/432134-gop-senators-fuming-over-trump-comments-on-warmbier

https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/...g-un-cover-for-the-murder-of-american-student

--Trump tells the president of the Philippines that he is doing a "great job" cracking down on drug use. Even though that includes extrajudicial murders. By the thousands. Trump as a puppy dog, wagging his tail at a brutal dictator.

--At Helsinki, Trump tells the world that he believes Putin, not his own intelligence community. Puppy dog Trump, wagging his tail at the feet of Putin.

--Trump tells the world that maybe the Crown Prince of Saudi Arabia is innocent of murdering an American resident journalist. Trump as puppy dog.

--Trump tells the world that he takes Kim's "word for it". Putting "North Korea and Kim first".

Tell the Republicans that they're being petty about this, because they seem to be leading the "outrage".
 
Zombie said:
Is this the right thread to bring this up?



It's not surprising in the least of course, that Trump would be willing to take a dictator 'at his word,' but it's no less shameful.
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So a lot of folks are describing this Trump-Kim summit as the "Trump's amateur hour". Usually such summits are set up in advance with firm expectations in mind. Trump seems to think that his personality alone, his "likability" will get a deal, and no real planning.

It's likely Kim underestimated Trump as well, perhaps thinking Trump wanted a PR victory so bad, that Kim could get major concessions.

But Trump showed he could walk away. He would not give the house away just to get a deal. Hence the bipartisan praise for being willing to not make a deal.

But Trump could have ended it with positive comments for future negotiations. He did not have to take Kim's side on the death of an American. Yes, the American stole a poster, but everybody knows Kim used that American as a pawn in dealing with the United States.

So, just once, in the presence and discussions with these various dictators, maybe just once this president could show a little backbone??

Is this asking too much? That our president stop wagging his tail like a little puppy dog, and simply show a little backbone?! It was a shameful moment, and it is not petty to point this out. He is the president of our country, not an official apologist for a brutal dictator of a nation where 1 in 3 workers are basically slave labor, thousands held in gulags, etc.

He is our president, not an apologist for dictators. Let him show some GD backbone already!!

And yeah, this probably could have been brought up in a different thread....
 
NPC D4617 said:
He is a victim. If half the country and 90% of the media was attacking you 24/7 you would have hung yourself by now.

You snowflakes cry about everything AND things that arent even happening to you. I cant image how you would react if you got the same treatment Trump does.
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Cry me a river. You snowflakes are always playing the victim card. Hope you feel better.
 
silesian said:
Cry me a river. You snowflakes are always playing the victim card. Hope you feel better.
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Lmao.

Is this a joke?

Its funny. You leftists can ever play in reality. Its has to be in some fantasy. Because you know you cant win logical arguments. You are like children. And most of you still are children.

We both know who plays the victim constantly.
 
NPC D4617 said:
Lmao.

Is this a joke?

Its funny. You leftists can ever play in reality. Its has to be in some fantasy. Because you know you cant win logical arguments. You are like children. And most of you still are children.

We both know who plays the victim constantly.
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You think I’m a leftist? You know what? There is nothing wrong with special education and I will not be one to bully the learning disabled. Bless your heart
 
NPC D4617 said:
We both know who plays the victim constantly.
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I forgot to cite my references:

For information on who plays the victim constantly, please refer to:
(1). Snowflake NPC D4617, in every “why’s everyone always picking on our Great Leader?” JazzFanz post
(2). Snowflake POTUS45, every time he blames another of his string of failures on someone else.

Keep trying dude, someone needs to be the last man standing, or last boy drinking snake oil, or whatev.
 
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