Legal Pot
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SaltyDawg
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Look it up in the last thread on this topic where I cited several studies. I'm not going to search for it on my phone.
It is illegal in some states.
Those people have my sincere sympathy. The people who are responsible should face murder, not manslaughter, charges in my opinion. That said, I highly doubt the drunk drivers responsible were below a 0.12. Maybe they were, but I seriously doubt it. We don't make laws to make people who have suffered feel better about their tragedy. So, despite their feelings I think we need laws that make more sense.
I also agree that .08 is really low to consider basically and potentially ruining someone's life over (considering that that's a light to moderate buzz for most people). While you could argue to not drink and drive AT ALL, reality says that that's not really an all-purpose solution to a country that likes to drink and has the worst public transit system in the developed world. But when laws are put in place, they're usually purposefully a bit overkill so that an officer can use some discretion on whether to cite an offender or not.
My solution? People in general could afford to be a lot more responsible in how they plan these things (DDs, cabs), but that's not a government solution. Trying to work out a way to expand and emphasize public transit seems like a sensible route.
My solution? People in general could afford to be a lot more responsible in how they plan these things (DDs, cabs), but that's not a government solution. Trying to work out a way to expand and emphasize public transit seems like a sensible route.
Burden of proof. And I tend to avoid your posts.
Thanks for the sincere reply, GF.
My problem is that too many of these drunk drivers would swear they're under the legal limit. It's a tough call.
On one hand, shame on them for not being resposible enough to know whether they're over the limit .. on the other hand, it would save some innocent lives if we just got tougher.
As a matter of disclaimer, I speak from personal experience.. I've ent out WAY TOO many times with the intention of having 'a couple of drinks' and the next day I'm at home, safe, and can't even remember driving home. Fortunately I've never hurt anyone or even gotten caught, but I won't ever do it again. I won't even have one now, because I don't trust myself. Should other 'responsible' drinkers that drive be penalized for those, like me, that are less responsible? No. But I also hate the loss of innocent life.. which is what makes it a tough call.
My problem is that too many of these drunk drivers would swear they're under the legal limit. It's a tough call.
On one hand, shame on them for not being resposible enough to know whether they're over the limit .. on the other hand, it would save some innocent lives if we just got tougher.
As a matter of disclaimer, I speak from personal experience.. I've ent out WAY TOO many times with the intention of having 'a couple of drinks' and the next day I'm at home, safe, and can't even remember driving home. Fortunately I've never hurt anyone or even gotten caught, but I won't ever do it again. I won't even have one now, because I don't trust myself. Should other 'responsible' drinkers that drive be penalized for those, like me, that are less responsible? No. But I also hate the loss of innocent life.. which is what makes it a tough call.
SaltyDawg
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Well I've posted this proof. If you missed it because you like to avoid my posts, that's your problem.
I'm not going to search through your posts, that you think it's my duty again shows your off-the-deep-end appraisal of reality and/or ego.
I agree with your first sentence.
I'm just to close to sad situations to get my head around the 2nd one. It's too late at that point.