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SaltyDawg said:
If people knew they faced life in prison, they'd be more careful about their driving while drunk.
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No, they wouldn't. Humans have a remarkable ability to think bad things and irresponsibility are things that hapen to someone else. It's the other guy who's a danger driving drunk, and/or will get pulled over. It's the other guy who had the frivolous lawsuit. I'm more than capable of handling my drink. My grievance is real. Etc.
 
One Brow said:
No, they wouldn't. Humans have a remarkable ability to think bad things and irresponsibility are things that hapen to someone else. It's the other guy who's a danger driving drunk, and/or will get pulled over. It's the other guy who had the frivolous lawsuit. I'm more than capable of handling my drink. My grievance is real. Etc.
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That's what I've been trying to say here. I've also been saying we have a give-an-inch problem.. if two is okay, then three is fine .. and what harm could just one more do?

As I have also said, I'm conflicted on this, but I wouldn't be opposed to a zero-tolerance policy. The ramifications of ANY alcohol, at all, is much more effective for most humans to manage .. than some ambiguous amount that is not really measurable until too late.
 
PKM said:
As I have also said, I'm conflicted on this, but I wouldn't be opposed to a zero-tolerance policy. The ramifications of ANY alcohol, at all, is much more effective for most humans to manage .. than some ambiguous amount that is not really measurable until too late.
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I disagree. Minors have a zero tolerance policy right now, yet they drive drunk all the time.
 
SaltyDawg said:
I disagree. Minors have a zero tolerance policy right now, yet they drive drunk all the time.
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What does that prove? I am certain that if minors were told they can only drive with up to .08, that there would be a FAR larger epidimic.
 
PKM said:
What does that prove? I am certain that if minors were told they can only drive with up to .08, that there would be a FAR larger epidimic.
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I doubt it. I do think, however, if you told minors they got life in prison if they hurt someone, they would probably think twice before doing it.
 
PKM said:
This, my experience is they think they're driving great, but I've been with many that drive super fast .. and of course others that are driving super slow.
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I have ridden in the passenger seat with sober drivers before, and guess what? Sometimes they drive to fast, sometimes they drive too slow, sometimes they cut people off, sometimes they drive to close to the car in front of them. And they think they are driving just fine.
So i think that we should not allow sober drivers to drive while sober.
 
I was just making a point with my last comment, but in actuality i DO want marijuana to be legalized and i think that in order for that to happen there will have to be some kind of rules against smoking pot and driving.
Im ok with that trade off. I usually only want to smoke it at home after work while sitting on the couch to unwind. Or if i go camping/fishing. So i would be ok if i couldn't smoke and drive.
 
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