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Results of todays meetings?

"Stern left after talks surpassed the seven-hour mark Wednesday to attend an owners' planning committee meeting at another hotel."

"However, little progress was made on minor issues according to a person who attended who requested anonymity because of Cohen's request to stay silent. The person also had no expectations regarding progress Wednesday on the major issues: the split of basketball-related income and the system in which that money is distributed to players."

EXCELLENT!!!
 
in what other business do you become less profitable as you get more revenue?

Are you serious? No disrespect intended, but are you really suggesting that expenses can't outpace increases in revenue? The average price of gas in 2005 (the last year the CBA was signed) was $2.30. Business expenses like travel, insurance, accounting services, attorneys fees, capital expenditures, and office supplies and equipment, especially expenses tied to the price of gas, are through the roof. I don't know, and neither do you, how much money the league is losing, but I do know that increased revenue does not always result in an increase in net income.
 
There is an underlying race issue surrounding this lockout that few here care to admit. Yes, the players may not be handling this situation very well, but their concerns over treatment by the league and owners can't be ignored.
If you're going to pull the race card you'd better back it up. I see nothing racist about not being willing to pay the players such a huge percentage of the revenue that you can't balance the books.
 
......you better believe there is an underlying race issue here!....one I've been trying to point out for months! Old school owners against the hip hop culture and "hopper" ball! The owners have been had over the past 10 years, paying these pathetic looking dummies all that money for all those years....with diminishing returns and a watered down product that has completely lost corporate middle class America...and now it's pay back time....BIG TIME!
Newsflash: You don't have to keep following this league you hate so much.
 
Couple the Celtics together with the fact that Stern has turned this league into a bunch of guys who you're more likely to see demonstrating "public displays of affection" than get into a fight and you get trickle down effect of Miami, Melo, DWill and soon to be CP3 & Mr. Schrute.
What do you mean by this? What has Stern done to promote PDA? This makes no sense to me.
 
the league is not losing money. stop it. it defies all logic. everyone admits that revenue is at a record-high. everyone admits that player salaries as a portion of that revenue has held constant over the last 11 years. What are the expenses that are rising so dramatically that the league is losing money? And why are franchise values appreciating at a healthy rate of return if the league has been losing money so consistently.
Other expenses, of course.

https://static8.businessinsider.com/image/4e1fa8d949e2ae0e64060000/nba-revenues-and-expenses.jpg

But you still don't get it (or like to beat a dead horse). It doesn't matter whether the NBA is profitable or not; if it is, then not by much, and it is not unreasonable for owners to want to boost their return on investment (ROI), especially when revenues are uncertain, some non-salary expenses continue to rise, and the other major sports unions receive a percentage far lower than 57%.

the league has not opened up its sales prospectuses not even for player inspection let alone for public consumption. the league is NOT losing money. they claim to have lost money for 11 straight years without having done anything about it? that defies belief. how did they stay open? how did they prop up a franchise in new orleans? how did they run the WNBA?????
They ran the WNBA at a loss; that's pretty intuitive. And they assumed the risk during this past contract, whereas the players did not. Although the owners were foolish to not rein in salary expenses, they now have the ability to do so during contract negotiation. Perfectly rational and reasonable.

Even after taking out every unreasonable expense, there are still several teams that are unprofitable. The attendance and other revenue simply isn't there--and that's just to get to profitability and positive cash flow. It's not unreasonable to demand the players to absorb some of this change in economic reality--just like any other company would do.

in what other business do you become less profitable as you get more revenue?
In businesses where costs are growing at a faster rate than revenue.

BTW, our beloved (and usually well-run) Jazz are one team that has been cited among the majority of teams operating at a loss.
https://bizofbasketball.com/index.p...-broken&catid=42:articles-a-opinion&Itemid=57

With more restrictions in place for big-spending franchises to rein in spending (and possibly with a hard (or less soft) cap, it is likely that Utah will be even less inclined to dip in luxury-tax territory. (Unfortunately, it might make things easier or harder to attract players to Utah. Could work both ways.)
 
Various local and state governments have spent hundreds of millions of dollars (or maybe even billions) building NBA arenas, presumably because of the economic benefits that NBA games provide in their communities. The NBA owners are now cancelling games and denying those benefits. They're all but flushing taxpayer money down the toilet. Those governments should be at least trying to intervene.
 
Various local and state governments have spent hundreds of millions of dollars (or maybe even billions) building NBA arenas, presumably because of the economic benefits that NBA games provide in their communities. The NBA owners are now cancelling games and denying those benefits. They're all but flushing taxpayer money down the toilet. Those governments should be at least trying to intervene.

Correct me if I'm wrong but Isn't memphis threatening to sue the nba for that reason?
 
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