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Cappy_Smurf

Cappy_Smurf

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Ok, I think this is going to be much more difficult than it has been in the past. Utah actually has too much depth, if you believe there is such a thing, and if everyone remains healthy, I think it will be a challenge keeping everyone happy. Obviously injuries could solve that problem, but for now, let's assume everyone stays healthy for once.

First, do the minutes the way you think it WILL be, and if you want, do one the way you think it SHOULD be or will be by the end of the year. Or do a tightened version you think will be our playoff rotation. Soooo many frickin options. Such a weird feeling to have not enough minutes to spread around the talent instead of the opposite. Did I say weird? I meant awesome.:cool:

Let's start with these 15 players, but feel free to change a player or two if you think the final roster will be different. Or start with 14 if you wish. Whatever. I'm going to wait on doing mine, as I need to put some thought into it.

Gobert
Favors
Diaw
Lyles
JJ
Gordo
Burks
Hill
Exum
Hood
Mack
Jingles
Withey
Neto
Bolomboy
 
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This is completely based off matchups, hot hand, type of game, etc. I don't envy Quin, it will be tough balancing the rotations and keeping everybody happy. I just posted this in a response on your other thread but I definitely think Neto, Mack, Ingles, Bolomboy, Withey ride the bench and don't see the floor unless foul trouble or injury. Then you split up your 240, like I said, due to many different factors game-by-game between the 10 guys.

Couple things I am really interested to see regarding minutes/lineups:
- The Favors/Gobert duo. How does Quin work with this? Could Gobert come off the bench some games, or be started and pulled 5 minutes in? Also the added variable of his contract extension
- Hill and Exum. I'm pretty sure Exum is going to be slowly worked in and Hill is our dude this year. What if Dante starts tearing it up? Can you keep him on the bench all season?
 
Diaw has been in the low twenties for the past 5 years. Burks probably gets his minutes limited to start the season. JJ probably cuts Hood's minutes more than he would like, and I don't think any player gets more than 32 minutes right away.
 
MDAV28 said:
Wow nice job. Looks good. I could see Boris playing a little more Center and Lyles with 12 minutes is tough to swallow but you guys are right, minutes are scarce.
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Thanks, I could make a public one so people can try their hand at it if they'd like. It's an interesting exercise to go through. I had so many ideas I went into it with, but so many of them got thrown out the window because I couldn't find minutes for them.

The big rotation is going to be tight. If you're really trying to win, Favors and Rudy should both be playing 33+ minutes, but that leaves very little time for the bench. Lyles should be playing ~20 minutes a night, and Boris just played 18 MPG for one of the best benches in the league last year, but I could only find 12 minutes for each because you have to fit in some small ball minutes too. Quin has a serious task at hand.

It's easy to just cut minutes from Hayward, Favors, and Gobert, but that might not be a luxury we can afford. If the difference between winning and losing is playing those guys a few minutes more, Quin has to go out and win the game. I don't think people will be happy if we're losing while Hayward is sitting 8 minutes a half. It's possible that we can be like the Hawks in 14-15, but in my opinion we will have to lean on those 3 to get HCA.
 
KqWIN said:
First attempt using this janky spreadsheet I whipped together. I did the rotation minute by minute because I'm a nerd. Maybe should have given a couple more minutes to Lyles, but I feel ok about it.

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1G_e4GVWIBEHjiM9oGnBapEcloaTfmuUdAWIil_XvH8w/edit?usp=sharing
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Decent. My prediction is that:

** Lyles cuts into Favors' minutes more than that, like 5 - 8 minutes more. If Favors gets those kind of minutes, it will be with even more minutes at the 5.
** Johnson doesn't take minutes at guard. (He's over 250 lbs now.) He'll cut into Favors' minutes at the 4 a bit more too.
** Ingles is going to get 8 - 10 rotation minutes, mostly at the 3, probably taking those SF minutes you have allocated to Hood.
** Burks is going to have to work his way back.
** Exum might take minutes from Burks if he shows he can shoot. He's got the IQ, passing and defense.

** Quin is going to be tempted to play Hill/Hood/Hayward/Johnson together with Favors or Gobert at the 5. That's veteran leadership, spacing and shot creation all over the floor.
 
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Catchall said:
Decent. My prediction is that:

** Lyles cuts into Favors' minutes more than that, like 5 - 8 minutes more. If Favors gets those kind of minutes, it will be with even more minutes at the 5.
** Johnson doesn't take minutes at guard. (He's over 250 lbs now.) He'll cut into Favors' minutes at the 4 a bit more too.
** Ingles is going to get 8 - 10 rotation minutes, mostly at the 3, probably taking those SF minutes you have allocated to Hood.
** Burks is going to have to work his way back.
** Exum might take minutes from Burks if he shows he can shoot. He's got the IQ, passing and defense.

** Quin is going to be tempted to play Hill/Hood/Hayward/Johnson together with Favors or Gobert at the 5. That's veteran leadership, spacing and shot creation all over the floor.
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It's very difficult!

*It's hard to cut minutes from Favors. If you cut 5-8 more minutes for Lyles and some for Johnson, you leave Favors with about 25 minutes a game. That isn't going to happen!
*I had Johnson as the opposite wing as Hayward, it was just easier to drag him into the guard slot but it's the same difference. I think we'll see big lineups with Hayward and Joe as two wings with two traditional bigs on the floor. Hayward can probably guard every position on the floor.
* I have a hard time finding minutes for Ingles. He'll get some through injuries and foul trouble, but I think he will see many DNP's this season. If you take away those minutes from Hood that leaves him with only about 20 minutes which is too low. The team is better off just giving them to Hood imo.
* I agree that Burks will get squeezed, and Exum might be the guy to do it. His defense is much better. That said, Alec did play 25 MPG last year. I have him down to 15 MPG and I have a tough time slashing off much more minutes than that. Ingles might be a more reliable player than Burks, but it's not a terrible thing to have a high variance 15 MPG player.
 
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