FalseFlagg K
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dude c'mon that last sentence is rubbish. And you seem to live in some utopian assumption of what human nature is / should be. There are just trash people and plenty of them.
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dude c'mon that last sentence is rubbish. And you seem to live in some utopian assumption of what human nature is / should be. There are just trash people and plenty of them.
Insecurity is a personality trait. It doesn't mean that Bird was some kind of fraud or that he lacked confidence. I think the need to put others down is a sign of insecurity. I didn't watch Bird play. I haven't watched anything about him. I don't find him to be a particularly interesting person, or anything about his sports story to be particularly special in the context of all the other ultra elite athletes I could chose from to care about, of which I don't really care about any of them. Not MJ, Kobe, LeBron, Bird, Malone. I don't care about the people behind talent, generally. Same with musicians, I don't care about any musicians life or views on the world. I don't find them interesting as people. I find their accomplishments somewhat interesting, but nothing about them. So I don't really know **** about Bird or why he acted however he acted, and I don't really know how he acted.
So that said, I can imagine that high level athletes might feel the need to carry themselves a certain way and I know that in that era of the NBA trash talk and that sort of gamesmanship was popular. I don't think that is the same thing as arrogance in the way I'm talking about arrogance. If I'm wrong and Bird was being arrogant more than he was talking trash and engaging in mind game then I stick by what I've said.
I had not heard Larry Bird was a bad team mate, or refused to help rookies on his team, or anything like that. IIRC, Magic Johnson spent several weeks at his house one summer. I would not expect a player to help out his opponents during a game. What is your source for saying Bird was a "self absorbed self serving arsehole" or the equivalent?
That is not exactly what the Dunning-Kruger effect is. When you look at the data and graphs, the more knowledgeable people rated themselves higher than the less knowledgeable people overall, but underrate the level of difference between them and a non-expert. Much like I would say I know almost nothing about quantum mechanics, while colton would have said he has some familiarity with the concept. He would underrate the difference in our degrees of knowledge, but not to the level he would say he knew nothing about it.
As a moderate fan of the Talking Heads, David Byrne seems to be one of those geniuses who is not friendly or helpful. Then again, as a father of a few kids on the autism spectrum, I recognize some of the signs in his behavior. Empathy is harder for those who don't understand social cues well.
FalseFlagg K
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didn't say he was an arsehole But when he played he sure was arrogant.