Game Thread Nov 23, 2025 06:00PM MT: Los Angeles Lakers @ Utah Jazz

[Ferguson_Mellochill]

The refs took away a bucket from Brice. Not sure why. Brice is still 1-7.

 

[MTS]

The refs took away a bucket from Brice. Not sure why. Brice is still 1-7.

We're playing the Lakers.

 

[KqWIN]

????

Cody didn't tank the offense because it wasn't tanked with him on the court.

Calling it a small sample size is using it to predict whether the Jazz will continue to have an ok offense with him on the court. That's my opinion, but I could be wrong.

But you don't know what the alternative would be if he wasn't on the court. If Cody was not playing the offensive rating could have been even higher. If you cause performance to go from good to average, that's still tanking the offense. It works in the opposite way as well. For example, if you think Cody is helping the defense, the defensive rating can still be worse when he's on the court. If you have the capacity to understand how Cody can be a defensive positive despite a bad defensive rating you should understand how he can be tanking the offense despite a fine offensive on court rating.

Calling it a SSS is not only to predict what will happen in the future, but also calls into speculation how much you can attribute +/- to a specific player.

 

[Saint Cy of JFC]

I think eventually Ace is going to be better than Lauri. He might not be the same pure volume scorer that Lauri is, but he's got more handle and shift off the dribble. He'll be able to create for himself.

Let's wait til Ace successfully scores off a dribble drive or draws a shooting foul ok a drive before saying that

 

[seattlejazzfan]

Collier has been horribble in the halfcourt

was excellent in the first half in the halfcourt.

 

[KqWIN]

Austin Reaves unstoppable move = run into defense.

 

[str8line]

Collier slow in getting the ball to Ace there wrecked his shot rhythm. Ace looked at him like WTF?

 

[SoberasHotRod]

But you don't know what the alternative would be if he wasn't on the court. If Cody was not playing the offensive rating could have been even higher. If you cause performance to go from good to average, that's still tanking the offense. It works in the opposite way as well. For example, if you think Cody is helping the defense, the defensive rating can still be worse when he's on the court. If you have the capacity to understand how Cody can be a defensive positive despite a bad defensive rating,

Calling it a SSS is not only to predict what will happen in the future, but also calls into speculation how much you can attribute +/- to a specific player.

That's not my point though. I'm not saying Cody is a good offensive player or that he makes our offense better. I'm not saying the offense couldn't be better with someone else taking his minutes. My point has been that he's not a tank commander, in the sense that he singlehandedly loses us games, which is the reason some posters think he should continue to play.

Up until last game he hadn't been so severely affecting our offense that he was single handedly losing us games. I don't think that's opinion.

 

[Ferguson_Mellochill]

Whatever Cody did or didn't do in the 1st quarter, he hasn't been seen since.

 

[str8line]

Lebron out there moving like a 25-year-old.

 

[str8line]

Ooh, Ace baby.

 

[Ron Mexico]

Collier hurt? He went to the locker room.