Parsons gets 3 years, $45 million offer from Dallas

[somebody]

Question for anybody. Which do you think is greater:

a) The number of players better than Hayward.
b) The maximum number of max contracts that can exist in the league at any given time.

I would think that if a > b, then we shouldn't match. Is that sound reasoning?

 

[JAZZGASM]

I disagree.

I believe that there is such thing as paying MORE than somethings true value

and i dont think its a good idea

Why is it a bad idea? How does it hurt? Yes, you can overpay. But from a seller's perspective, if you know you can sell your camry for 70k to multiple buyers, that is the market value for the car now.

Hayward is more like a rare classic car. His value is what someone will pay. If there are more buyers than good cars, the value of the cars available go up. And the cars that are not in mint condition may sell for mint price if no others are available.

 

[b_line]

Question for anybody. Which do you think is greater:

a) The number of players better than Hayward.
b) The maximum number of max contracts that can exist in the league at any given time.

I would think that if a > b, then we shouldn't match. Is that sound reasoning?

Does anybody think it is ironic that somebody is asking anybody a question?

 

[b_line]

Why is it a bad idea? How does it hurt? Yes, you can overpay. But from a seller's perspective, if you know you can sell your camry for 70k to multiple buyers, that is the market value for the car now.

Hayward is more like a rare classic car. His value is what someone will pay. If there are more buyers than good cars, the value of the cars available go up. And the cars that are not in mint condition may sell for mint price if no others are available.

If Hayward is a classic car, he is the one that everyone forgot about.

 

[Jazz4ever]

Point is even with the future salary cap going up. Hayward at his best is still never worth max money.

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Yep. It also means you likely pick #10 next year instead of top 5. From all star level pick to role player pick. No one wants think about the draft now, but it is the cold reality of it.

 

[Doublea]

Why is it a bad idea? How does it hurt? Yes, you can overpay. But from a seller's perspective, if you know you can sell your camry for 70k to multiple buyers, that is the market value for the car now.

Hayward is more like a rare classic car. His value is what someone will pay. If there are more buyers than good cars, the value of the cars available go up. And the cars that are not in mint condition may sell for mint price if no others are available.

Let's imagine it this way then (it's not going to be proportional..). Let's say you only have 100,000 dollars to buy 6 cars. If you buy a car for 70,000 it better be able to carry everyone and be a nice shiny one. If it isn't you can't get the other 5 cars with only 30,000 that you need them for. Yay.

 

[JimLes]

Yep. It also means you likely pick #10 next year instead of top 5. From all star level pick to role player pick. No one wants think about the draft now, but it is the cold reality of it.

How many more lottery picks do we ****ing need in order to win? We've got 6 on the roster right now, assuming Hayward is retained, all younger than 25.

And people are already thinking about how we need another top 5 pick next year.

 

[//r00t 4 Jazz]

Horrible car analogy absolutely ridiculously horribly absurd. How does that even fit or make any kind of sense, what a jackass of a comparison.



We all know Hayward drives a Honda Accord.

 

[Nate505]

I still hate the idea of the Jazz matching, but this deal here does make me feel better if they do. Mostly from a misery loves company standpoint.

 

[JazzForLifee]

15 mil for him. wow Is he worth it? I don't think so

 

[jazzrule]

First, this is for those of you who thought we should just let Hayward go and sign Parsons. This was a naive wish from the start. IF you think Parsons is as good or better than Hayward, then why would you think he'd come at a substantially lower price than Hayward?

It also demonstrates the state of the market. In other words, if you want even second tier talent in the current FA market, you're gonna have to pay for it--a lot.

It also raises the question: Just who we going to get for Hayward that is as good as him (or close to it) but who costs substantially less?

Jazz are going to match.

https://espn.go.com/dallas/nba/stor...rsons-dallas-mavericks-agree-deal-sources-say

Naive would be thinking every GM thinks every free agent is worth the same. Go eat some pizza.

 

[ema]

Parsons and Hayward are almost identical players, with imo Parsons being (very)slightly the better one because he has better mental game and consistency, although I like Hayward more.

That being said, both of them are going to be overpaid with the current offers on an equal level too. So I don't understand the puzzlement of the Jazz fans with the offer Parsons got, especially of the ones who are ready to match Hayward's offer.