Physical attributes from the combine out

[Darkwing Duck]

Unfortunately, the source is insider, so I can't post anything about it or link to the place that posted them, you'll have to look on the NET for NBADRAFT to find them.

What I'll do is some comparisons. First is Aldrich vs. Monroe. Monroe jumped noticeably higher and benched more. Aldrich was faster in the lane, and same court speed.

Whiteside jumped higher than Monroe, benched between the two as well as lane agility, but was slow on the sprint.

Udoh jumped better than Whiteside, benched the same as Aldrich, and was the fastest and quickest of the four.

These test further muddle the field. Udoh was great athletically. Should move him back up the board, I think.

 

[NUMBERICA]

Wesley Johnson is a freak. Damn.

 

[billyshelby]

In other words, Davis and Favors are the only good athletes amongst big men in the top 10. More and more I'm beginning to think that the supposed depth at the 4 and 5 in this draft is a fraud.

 

[Qman]

Wesley Johnson is a freak. Damn.

Luke Babbitt 29.5 37.5 15 10.98 3.4
Wesley Johnson 32.0 37.0 16 11.43 3.14


Apparently Luke Babbit is a better freak.

John Wall 30.0 39.0 -N-a 10.84 3.14
Evan Turner 27.5 34.5 9 11.06 3.27
Xavier Henry 28.5 36.5 8 11.1 3.18
Jordan Crawford 31.5 34.5 7 11.03 3.37
Ekpe Udoh 31.0 33.5 10 11.15 3.29
Lazar Hayward 31.0 36.0 15 10.87 3.31
Patrick Patterson 28.5 33.5 17 11.14 3.25
Dominique Jones 26.0 32.5 19 10.88 3.31
James, Damion 29.0 33.0 13 10.89 3.2

All of these guys have incredible quickness and footspeed.

 

[NUMBERICA]

In other words, Davis and Favors are the only good athletes amongst big men in the top 10. More and more I'm beginning to think that the supposed depth at the 4 and 5 in this draft is a fraud.

Well, let's not get carried away. Athletic testing is somewhat subjective (it's not a real-game scenario) and it's mostly seperate from pure physical measurements and completely different from skill, talent, or IQ.

Besides, most of the bigs in this draft have ridiculous wingspan to height ratios. I'll choose height and length or hops, I choose height and length every time (though agility is a separate issue).

Every day I fall a little more in love with Wesley Johnson. He would be so amazing on the Jazz.

 

[Ferguson_Mellochill]

I think Luke Babbit could be worth a lottery pick. The guy has length, shoots, plays hard, has some IQ, etc. Nice rotation player, although not a real game changer, kind of a Mike Dunleavy.

I think in this draft though the Jazz have to go for athletic length--someone who can impact the game inside on both sides of the ball. I would take a long look at Hassan Whiteside. I like Greg Monroe and all, but see him as kind of a Marreese Speights--decent and maybe more skilled, but not a big enough physical presence to be a game changer.

I would actually look at the Euro Donatas Motiejunas, depending on his mobility and heart for the game. Very skilled player. I don't see the comparison to Bargnani, given that he's 30 obs. lighter and much more mobile. He could be more of a Toni Kukoc.

I think Cole Aldrich should be in play too, but I see him as a PF in the NBA--like a defensive-minded Kevin Love.

 

[Scat]

So is "30.5 34.5 10 11.73 3.22" pretty good for a skinny white boy out of Butler?

 

[Mambo]

Greg Monroe needs to get in better shape.

 

[mtnbayou]

I`d put money on Patterson having a better NBA career than Cousins

 

[Jazz4ever]

Cousins an Aldrich with awful jumping scores. Cousins at least has an excuse, he is out of shape. This might knock Aldrich off the Jazz radar.
Monroe pretty average on just about everything, as expected. Whiteside jumps pretty well for a 7 footer, too bad he's dumber than a box rocks.
The eltie big men athletic wise appear to be Favors, Udoh, and Davis.

Wes Johnson is a freak indeed, 32" no step vertical vs Turner's 27.5"...not to mention he is several inches longer. Who will be the better NBA player?

 

[NAOS]

Wes Johnson is a freak indeed, 32" no step vertical vs Turner's 27.5"...not to mention he is several inches longer. Who will be the better NBA player?

This will be one of those rivalry questions during the first year of their careers (and perhaps beyond). If Turner really does develop BRoy-like moves and body control, it will be hard for Johnson to top him, IMO. Johnson is an elite athlete, but he could end up something like Marvin Williams with a better shot.

 

[billyshelby]

This will be one of those rivalry questions during the first year of their careers (and perhaps beyond). If Turner really does develop BRoy-like moves and body control, it will be hard for Johnson to top him, IMO. Johnson is an elite athlete, but he could end up something like Marvin Williams with a better shot.

The Turner/Roy comparisons are driving me crazy. Roy didn't shoot the 3 his first 3 years at Washington, but when he did he was good. Turner has only reluctantly shot the 3 at OSU and never been good. Roy was not the primary ballhandler and averaged 4 assists. Turner handled the ball 90% of the time and averaged 6. Turner's rebounding numbers are impressive when you forget that Dallas Freakin Lauderdale is the only guy on his team capable of grabbing a board. And everyone saw what happened to Turner once the comp stepped up--points, sure, but the turnovers were off the charts.

Turner is going to be a solid pro. But he's going to be a massive 'bust' drafted at 2.