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Players I don't want on this team next season

I think we can let the Favors situation play itself out.

If he comes back healthy, he'll be huge for us next year. If he cant get back to 100% then we can't go forward with him.
It's one of our easier calls to make. We need production out of that 4 spot. Diaw and a hobbled Favors are not going to cut it.
 
jimmy eat jazz said:
Hood has a game every now and then that makes you go "Wow, this guy is or could be great," which makes you very reluctant to give upon him, but unfortunately he follows those up with 3-4 games where he can't hit the ocean from the pier.
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Exactly. He's like fools gold, but I wouldn't give up on him just yet. I dont think we should give up on him now.

For one he's not 100%. Two he's still young, and I want to see him at least one more year.

Secondly we have players we know we can move on from, and we can't replace a huge portion of our roster without setbacks.

We need to use him correctly. If he's not consistent cut his playing time. We gave him a starting spot this year, and he regressed a little.
 
jimmy eat jazz said:
It's very hard to predict how a high volume shooting inefficient scorer like Booker would fit in on a team where he has to defer to other players, plays a role, and can't jack up 20-30 shots a game. He might be great, but also, his inefficient scoring might also prove to hurt the team.
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I think he would better settle into his role and be more of a spot up three point shooter and his efficiency would go way up while his ppg would dip a bit
 
Burks. Given his salary, our tightening financial situation, and his injury history, we need to shed dead salary like that. Heck, even if he was playing, he just doesn't feel like a fit.

Diaw. I'd opt out and try to talk to him about coming back on a cheaper deal. Maybe. But he has to lose some weight. Quin and Lindsey have to sell him on that. There's no reason an NBA player making millions can't avoid Dom Deluise comps.

I'm 70/30 on Mack. He stinks but if we lose Hill to an overpriced offer from another team, retaining him may be crucial. The dollar amount of course matters though. I can't fathom paying 6M per for Mack.
 
Revolution 9 said:
I think we can let the Favors situation play itself out.

If he comes back healthy, he'll be huge for us next year. If he cant get back to 100% then we can't go forward with him.
It's one of our easier calls to make. We need production out of that 4 spot. Diaw and a hobbled Favors are not going to cut it.
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So, let's say he comes back next year and has 65ish games near full health and puts up good stats. That's a pretty rosy outlook. Ok. Now, at the end of that season, he's an unrestricted free agent; so we either sign him to big money (which will put us over the tax) or we let him walk for nothing. We also have to re-up Exum and Hood that same off-season. In short, I fail to see how the scenario you've outlined puts us in a great position.

Favors is barely an asset right now. It's hard to let that fact sink in. The problems with Favors, Hood, Exum, and Lyles add up to a big mother****ing deal. Those are supposed to be significant chips. If they'd all played up to even just 2/3rds their potential, then I'd actually like our chances to get either Butler or PG13 in a swing-for-the-fences type deal. As of now, though, I can't see why CHI or IND would even care about any of them beyond a moderate interest for Hood, at best. Too many question marks around Favors' health. Too much bust potential in Exum and Lyles.
 
I would jettison Burks, Mack, and Lyles. There are several others I'd also be open to trading.
 
Cappy_Smurf said:
Even with Favors' injury concerns, Utah doesn't win that first round series without him. Dude came up big in the playoffs even without being 100%.

But sure, if Utah can find an all-star FA that wants to join Hayward and Gobert, Utah could theoretically find a way to clear cap room. My problem with that, is that Utah already has a potential 60 win team that could be even better next simply with better health and some internal growth. Losing depth in guys like Favors and Ingles could end up hurting more than it helps.

Last time Utah made this kind of move was letting Boozer go and trading for Al Jefferson. Didn't really work out like we hoped.

Anyway, I'm not sure it's realistic to think we can catch up to the Warriors by moving players around. Unless we can get one of our stars at half price, then we just can't stack the deck like they have. Might be better to stay the course and wait for their salary issues to catch up to them, which they will.
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I generally agree with this. We won 51 games with this team not being healthy! What we need to consider carefully is chemistry. Basketball is a team game and we need to focus on the guys who play well together. Hayward, Hill, and Jingles have great chemistry. Rudy and Exum have good chemistry; no one throws Rudy lobs better than X. Rudy and Diaw have good chemistry, but Diaw and X not so much. I think Neto fits well as a third PG who has been constantly improving; I don't understand why Quin has gone back to Mack of late. I'd rather lose with Exum and Neto getting valuable experience than relying on Mack who has no future in Utah. Favors and Burks need an off-season of rehab to re-evaluate. Hood and Lyles just need to get better. I don't know what's up with Lyles, why he has regressed so badly. Withey is ho-hum and could be an asset at the end of the bench; Bolomboy is wait and see. With all that said, the only untouchables for me would be Rudy, Hayward, Hill, Ingles, and JJ.
 
NAOS said:
So, let's say he comes back next year and has 65ish games near full health and puts up good stats. That's a pretty rosy outlook. Ok. Now, at the end of that season, he's an unrestricted free agent; so we either sign him to big money (which will put us over the tax) or we let him walk for nothing. We also have to re-up Exum and Hood that same off-season. In short, I fail to see how the scenario you've outlined puts us in a great position.

Favors is barely an asset right now. It's hard to let that fact sink in. The problems with Favors, Hood, Exum, and Lyles add up to a big mother****ing deal. Those are supposed to be significant chips. If they'd all played up to even just 2/3rds their potential, then I'd actually like our chances to get either Butler or PG13 in a swing-for-the-fences type deal. As of now, though, I can't see why CHI or IND would even care about any of them beyond a moderate interest for Hood, at best. Too many question marks around Favors' health. Too much bust potential in Exum and Lyles.
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"65ish games near full health" = he's gone. They only way we should re-invest in Favors is if he has a monster year with less than 10 games missed. You are correct he is not much of an asset right now, but he would if he was healthy next year. It all depends on his health. You know if he's healthy he's going to put up good numbers, and be a huge part in another run next year.
 
Revolution 9 said:
You are correct he is not much of an asset right now, but he would if he was healthy next year. It all depends on his health.
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What you're saying is that he's an asset if he plays a full season at full health and then we re-sign him. In other words, he's an asset as richly paid and on-going part of this team. With Rudy Gobert.

Is this summation correct?
 
I'd much rather invest in Favors if he had a crappy/meh year then a monster year. There would at least be an element of "buy low" that could be capitalized on.

Big element of him becoming viewed as just a center, which would drop his value massively.
 
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