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Players I don't want on this team next season

NAOS said:
So, let's say he comes back next year and has 65ish games near full health and puts up good stats. That's a pretty rosy outlook. Ok. Now, at the end of that season, he's an unrestricted free agent; so we either sign him to big money (which will put us over the tax) or we let him walk for nothing. We also have to re-up Exum and Hood that same off-season. In short, I fail to see how the scenario you've outlined puts us in a great position.

Favors is barely an asset right now. It's hard to let that fact sink in. The problems with Favors, Hood, Exum, and Lyles add up to a big mother****ing deal. Those are supposed to be significant chips. If they'd all played up to even just 2/3rds their potential, then I'd actually like our chances to get either Butler or PG13 in a swing-for-the-fences type deal. As of now, though, I can't see why CHI or IND would even care about any of them beyond a moderate interest for Hood, at best. Too many question marks around Favors' health. Too much bust potential in Exum and Lyles.
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The case for PG becoming obtainable is that no teams wants to touch him because of the LA rumors. The Lakers, knowing this, come in and completely low-ball Indy in a effort to get him in a trade so they can cut some risk of PG being courted by another team. The Jazz just come in with Hood, who is at least a potential starter, and some fist round picks (could do 1 this year and a future pick). That could potentially be better than anything else they get.

The problem is if Indy is proactive enough to get a deal done before the season starts. If I'm Utah, I'm much more weary of trading for PG mid-season. Maybe it's stupid to be splitting hairs, but it seems in that scenario there is a much lower chance at the team integrating and becoming successful enough to get a high seed and get to the WCF.
 
Saint Cy of JFC said:
I'd much rather invest in Favors if he had a crappy/meh year then a monster year. There would at least be an element of "buy low" that could be capitalized on.

Big element of him becoming viewed as just a center, which would drop his value massively.
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It's crazy to think that this scenario may be the Rosy Outlook from the players-as-assets perspective. That's why I made the "worry thread" months ago.

https://jazzfanz.com/showthread.php?58501-the-worry-thread
 
Saint Cy of JFC said:
The case for PG becoming obtainable is that no teams wants to touch him because of the LA rumors. The Lakers, knowing this, come in and completely low-ball Indy in a effort to get him in a trade so they can cut some risk of PG being courted by another team. The Jazz just come in with Hood, who is at least a potential starter, and some fist round picks (could do 1 this year and a future pick). That could potentially be better than anything else they get.

The problem is if Indy is proactive enough to get a deal done before the season starts. If I'm Utah, I'm much more weary of trading for PG mid-season. Maybe it's stupid to be splitting hairs, but it seems in that scenario there is a much lower chance at the team integrating and becoming successful enough to get a high seed and get to the WCF.
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You really think we could pry PG13 away with Hood and two late-1st before the season starts? I don't.
 
NAOS said:
You really think we could pry PG13 away with Hood and two 1st before the season starts? I don't.
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Diaw + Burks + Lyles + Tomic.

I've been told all of those guys have good value.

Hell, and maybe a S&T for Mack if they don't think Teague is their PGOTF then they'd appreciate us helping lock up Mack long-term.
 
infection said:
Diaw + Burks + Lyles + Tomic.

I've been told all of those guys have good value.

Hell, and maybe a S&T for Mack if they don't think Teague is their PGOTF then they'd appreciate us helping lock up Mack long-term.
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umm... troll post?

Lyles probably has some value, but the rest of your post seems like trollololol
 
NAOS said:
umm... troll post?

Lyles probably has some value, but the rest of your post seems like trollololol
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He's definitely trolling and it was hilarious. In all seriousness, I think Indiana would want something like:

Hood + Lyles + Exum + #24 + a future-first

What's everyone's thoughts on that trade?

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cowhide said:
Guys: who I am fine not having on the roster: Neto, Whitey, Burks, Lyles,Diaw and Mack.
Guys: who I would now trade: Hood, Exum, Favors, and Ingles.
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Regarding Ingles, it is hard to trade a free agent, more likely he just walks. You'd have to find a team with a cap situation and do a sign & trade.
 
NAOS said:
You really think we could pry PG13 away with Hood and two late-1st before the season starts? I don't.
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Probably not, but I wouldn't say it's out of the realm of possibility. It all depends on how serious they are about tanking this season and moving on.

They could make Hood and Turner their first options and tank around them. I guess they would probably me more interested in Lyles than Favors too. That's a strong tank.
 
White Chocolate said:
Anyone who thinks Hood and a few picks would get it done is smoking something good. I merely threw out what I think they'd ask for.


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Why is that smoking something good? What else are they getting? Who else is offering? If Indy knows they cant keep him, then what incentive do they have to keep him?

The thing to say is: What are the Lakers willing to trade to keep him from being traded to another team in fear of him staying with w/e team he is traded to.
 
Who else is good enough to trade for PG and think they could convince him to stay on?

I guess Boston could deal the 2018 Brooklyn pick for him straight up. I doubt Boston wants to include anything beyond that though with how stingy they are.
 
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