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PLS Stop Comparison with Paul George

Another thread for this topic? Are you ****ting me? The comparison is stupid. George is good; Hayward is good. Hayward is our guy, and this next season should show us who he truly is. They play with different teammates and for different coaches. Seriously, when Hayward has an amazing season next year, you all are goimg to feel like a bunch of ingrates.
 
Ya they were taken at during the same pick in the samedraft. Also they play the same position. Lets not compare Gordon Hayward to Paul George, lets compare him to John Wall and Marcin Gortat instead.
 
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Indiana is not that good. Maybe a little better than Utah actually.

They beat Atlanta and New York on their way. Quite real for any 1-10 team from the West.

Hey, we beat Miami too, donchya know?
 
I wanted George in that draft and so did a lot of other people.

I love Jazz fans. Most of them pick 3 or 4 guys in the draft that they like and then 2 or 3 years later, when one of them is playing well, they claim he's the guy they wanted. Just look at the draft thread. Not saying you're one of those guys Hack...
 
This guy is a beast, right now he is in battle with JAMES in conference finals, pls stop comparing him with Hayward. I love our core4 + AL but we have to be realistic, George is the better player and it Aignt be close right now.

Agreed. Cannot see Hay quite getting to this level. But Hay is very very good. Well, he could be very very good with the right coach.
 
I liked both guys in the draft but I wasn't dying for either. If I were drafting I would have flipped a coin. I see no reason to make excuses for either player because both of them our outstanding players. Even if you think George is the better player the Jazz didn't screw up their pick by taking Gordon. Look at all the players who were drafted before these two and I think you could make a strong argument that both should have been drafted before all the rest of the players.

This argument is like the CP3 vs DW argument. No one is wrong and no one is right. It is strictly a personal preference.
 
1320 commented on a few stats re Hay/George. Their first two years they were about equal on minutes, ppg, and games started. Last year they diverged as George's minutes went up quite a bit while Hay's went down a bit. The issue: picking up Marvin and being "forced" to play. I would also add that early in the season when Hay started, he had no impact because of alfense.
 
I promise you Paul George would NOT be who he is today if he was coached by Tyronne Corbin and in the non wing centric Jazz system, like The Fresh Prince just said, whatever that is these days.
also would like to add that no one even thought he could look this good, then the Pacers best player Granger misses the year and George makes the Allstar game. Playoffs hit and the Pacers find them selves learning on George. Hayward has Millsap, Al, and Mo in the way. And still put up similar numbers to George before the playoffs hit. Hayward is going to be great like have said for two years now.
Everyone shut up about the Jazz making a mistake on draft night. So did the other teams that drafted ahead of the Jazz. Hindsight bitches.

If we want to complain that we drafted a dud that is fine. But Hayward is a good player even though Corbin won't let the offense run through him. Which we wasted 3 years of development not letting him practice that.
1 - Wizards - John Wall
2 - Philly - Evan Turner
3 - New Jersey - Derrick Favors
4 - Wolves - Wesley Johnson
5 - Kings - DeMarcus Cousins
6 - Golden State Warriors - Ekpe Udoh
7 - Detroit Pistons - Greg Monroe
8 - Los Angeles Clippers - Al-Farouq Aminu

I would take Hayward over all of these wing players and most of the big men also. We could of wasted a pick on Wesley Johnson or Aminu.

I wouldn't be surprised if Hayward is the better player long term. If you look at Haywards stats per 36 compared to Paul George who played 37 minutes a game it is not a big difference.

FG% - Hayward wins
3P% - Hayward wins
FT% - Hayward wins (And shoots more per game)
Rebounding - Paul George wins
Assists - Paul George wins
Blocks - About the same
steals - Paul George wins
Turnovers - Hayward

Now this is Gordon Hayward playing with Mo Williams and Al Jefferson who just jack ups shots. They actually play team ball on the Pacers. They run the offense through him. And everyone seems to be unselfish on the team. And better defenders to set up the offense.

Everyone here is going to be eating crow next year when he gets the same minutes and Favors and Kanter are manning the paint, making offensive transitions easier for Hayward and Burks because the defensive stops will be there.

Put things in perspective please.
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Indiana is not that good. Maybe a little better than Utah actually.

They beat Atlanta and New York on their way. Quite real for any 1-10 team from the West.

Hey, we beat Miami too, donchya know?
I can't even begin to explain how wrong you are. First we got blown out by NY with no Mello. We also struggled against Atlanta. Remember when we made Harris look like a HOF pg. Also there defense is light years ahead of ours it's not even funny.
 
George is a better player than Hayward...who cares. No sense crying over spilled milk. Nothing we can do about it now.

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The fact he grew two inches after being drafted helps me cope with this. If we had drafted him, Ty wouldn't have let him grow 2 inches. FACT
 
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