Possible changes.. 78 game season & Mid-season tournament?

[Handlogten's Heros]

Very stupid. It only appeals as a money grab for people who don’t watch games but love to get into the hype of some stupid, meaningless tournament that will be talked about in the office.

Absolutely pointless.

Of course the NBAPA and the owners are the ones with long-term skin in the game and benefit most from long exposure to BRI. It’s not best for the players, and not best for the real fans, but it’s best for those really making the money and for all those assholes wearing Warriors gear the past three years that were totally MIA from last night’s JazzAvenues thread.

The whole mid season tournament thing always puzzled me... just because it works in soccer doesn’t mean it works here.

 

[candrew]

This mid-season tournament is really about how the NBA All Star Weekend has turned into a bloated bust. Ratings have gone from mediocre to awful. And rightfully so. The game has become unwatchable.

 

[Jazzmix]

I've been a soccer fan for years and honestly I don't know what mid season tournament are you guys talking about. Every major European soccer league has also cup tournament which is played parallel to the league throughout the season and it includes the teams from the lower divisions. Plus you have Champions and European Leagues which are also played during the whole season. The only tournament which takes place in the middle of the season is some idiotic Club World Cup in the winter where seven clubs from different continents compete and honestly nobody really gives a **** about it, at least in Europe. It's a pointless cup created to generate extra money for FIFA.

 

[Handlogten's Heros]

This mid-season tournament is really about how the NBA All Star Weekend has turned into a bloated bust. Ratings have gone from mediocre to awful. And rightfully so. The game has become unwatchable.

I remember being so stoked to watch the game... was almost better than the super bowl for me... I haven’t watched an all star game in 10 years.

 

[reignman40]

I remember being so stoked to watch the game... was almost better than the super bowl for me... I haven’t watched an all star game in 10 years.

Same here. I think the last full all-star game I watched was 2010? Whatever year D-Will was still in a jazz uniform and played. Even all star Saturday night has gone down the crapper. Rookie game is still fun.

 

[Saint Cy of JFC]

Love the idea of less games and a mid-season tournament.

I'm shocked at how dramatic some of these bitch made responses are. You really going to lose all interest in the NBA if they play 4 less regular season games and have a mid-season tourney? (which are great btw, tournaments are good and help promote rivalries).

SIDE NOTE: One of the NBA's biggest problems is how they have created this media narrative that the only thing that matters is championships. The people complaining about "pointless" games. Uhhh, the point of basketball is to play and win games. I'm sure they will make some kind of incentive to win/do well in the tournament

 

[Saint Cy of JFC]

So two months of watching the stars sit especially after people already complain about teams resting stars?

The NBA schedule has worked fine for decades.. Win/Lose record works just fine, no point system or some other complicated way of determining seeding.

Nah keep the soccer stuff out. There's a reason its not popular in the U.S.

Yes, Soccer isnt popular in the USA because they have.... mid-season tournaments.

That makes sense.

 

[Saint Cy of JFC]

Same here. I think the last full all-star game I watched was 2010? Whatever year D-Will was still in a jazz uniform and played. Even all star Saturday night has gone down the crapper. Rookie game is still fun.

It's the same as it always been, old bitter assholes just love to complain about ****.

 

[Saint Cy of JFC]

A big problem in the NBA is that divisions are just kind of there and there isnt a rivalry component for most teams. Mid-season tournament where you have to advance through your division first is a smart idea.

Division winners get their own division trophy or some ****.

 

[Saint Cy of JFC]

Dumb as ****.

I’d almost rather see something like a non-starters tourney. If you started more than 10 games, you can’t be in the tourney. Basically a collection of the best 6-10 guys on teams.

Now this is a ****ing stupid idea.

 

[Saint Cy of JFC]

I still can't believe this load management crap. Malone and John played 377493847392 more minutes than these babies and played A LOT harder than the current players do now. Smh

They also played much slower and the average NBA player was much weaker and less athletic.

Not to mention the proliferation of year round youth basketball and single sport kids.

 

[Saint Cy of JFC]

Adam Silver is a terrible commissioner

He's been incredible thus far.

 

[Saint Cy of JFC]

The seeding 1-16 isnt really a big deal to me and largely a non-issue IMO.

To me the emphasis needs to be on placing importance on regular season games. Give people a reason to watch. Improve the quality of broadcast and analysis to make it more about the game.

The NBA also has a time-zone problem that is probably unavoidable. When your most interesting games (West Coast) end games past mid-night for half the US (Central and East, just guessing it's half) then that's really going to hamstring your rating potential.

I also think draft reform would be huge, but my ideas on that are probably too radical and poorly run teams would cry about it.

 

[candrew]

A big problem in the NBA is that divisions are just kind of there and there isnt a rivalry component for most teams. Mid-season tournament where you have to advance through your division first is a smart idea.

Division winners get their own division trophy or some ****.

No one's going to give a **** about some in-season tournament trophy- and what little it moves the needle will only diminish the rest of the regular season games in kind.

You have to have some actual incentive behind it. Guaranteed home field advantage in the first round? First non-lottery draft pick? Something.

 

[candrew]

Yes, Soccer isnt popular in the USA because they have.... mid-season tournaments.

That makes sense.

Soccer isn't popular in the US for a few reasons but reignman is on the right track.

In the United States there's a "winner-take-all/second place = first loser" mentality that doesn't exist to nearly the same degree in the rest of the world.

An in-season champion might be a consolation for fans of that team - but no more than for fans of a team that finishes with the best regular reason record and doesn't win the title. In other words, in the grand scheme of things it's not going to be worth anything.

 

[SCS]

He's been incredible thus far.

LOL. Yeah, banning inconsequential ninja style headbands and confirming a change in the term "owner" to "governor" were such monumentally important moves.

 

[MeloTheJazzKiller]

HERE'S SOME GREAT IDEAS. GET RID OF CONFERENCES AND TAKE THE TOP 16 TEAMS TO THE PLAYOFFS?!

You do realize this idea has been proven to be rather stupid, no?

They ran through the 16 playoffs teams a few years ago and set them up 1 through 16 opening round. It ended up with the best team Warriors playing the worst team Miami -- significance being the best team in the NBA would have to travel the farthest during their opening round. There were other unfair oddities, too, all having to do with insane travel for top teams while other teams just had to go a few miles to face their opponent.

1 through 16 no conference also throws a monkey wrench into time zones. Suppose Warriors have to face Brooklyn in first round. Exactly when do you start the ratings juggernaut Warrior games? 7:00 NY time would be 4 in the afternoon for California. Start those games at 10 NY time and you lose entire East Coast ratings for an entire series. Remember it's a series. 10 o'clock starts and 4:30 starts are acceptable for a one-off regular season game, but not for seven game playoff series. The playoffs are when NBA really makes their dough. Can't have all games in a series starting at 4 in the afternoon or 10 at night.

Can't mix east coast teams and west coast teams in opening rounds. Travel and start times are impediments that can't be overcome.

 

[reignman40]

He's been incredible thus far.

LOL. Yeah, banning inconsequential ninja style headbands and confirming a change in the term "owner" to "governor" were such monumentally important moves.

I knew he was going to be bad news when he mentioned expanding the NBA to Europe, hopefully this little idea dies also.

 

[sgjazzfan]

Two conferences - East and West.

Two games against the other 29 teams, with one extra game against the 14 teams in your conference. That’s 72 games total. Seed the teams 1-16.

Keep it simple.

Add 2 teams. 75 games total. 2 against your team, 3 against the teams in your conference. You can add 1 against a team from the other conference if you'd like to make 76.

 

[JazzFever]

You do realize this idea has been proven to be rather stupid, no?

They ran through the 16 playoffs teams a few years ago and set them up 1 through 16 opening round. It ended up with the best team Warriors playing the worst team Miami -- significance being the best team in the NBA would have to travel the farthest during their opening round. There were other unfair oddities, too, all having to do with insane travel for top teams while other teams just had to go a few miles to face their opponent.

1 through 16 no conference also throws a monkey wrench into time zones. Suppose Warriors have to face Brooklyn in first round. Exactly when do you start the ratings juggernaut Warrior games? 7:00 NY time would be 4 in the afternoon for California. Start those games at 10 NY time and you lose entire East Coast ratings for an entire series. Remember it's a series. 10 o'clock starts and 4:30 starts are acceptable for a one-off regular season game, but not for seven game playoff series. The playoffs are when NBA really makes their dough. Can't have all games in a series starting at 4 in the afternoon or 10 at night.

Can't mix east coast teams and west coast teams in opening rounds. Travel and start times are impediments that can't be overcome.

Easy to fix- let the high seeds choose their opponents sequentially, the only rule is that you have to choose a team in the bottom half of the seeding pool. Would make the competition to get into the top half of the draw even more intense as a side benefit.