Proof of vaccination or negative COVID test required to attend games

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It was tongue in cheek as there’s many places bracing for even worse staff shortages. I would guess Utah is part of that since it’s vaccination rate is pretty par. These hospitals are already bare minimum and I’m betting there’s some nurses who won’t abide.

New York hospitals brace for mass staff shortages as vaccine deadline looms

New York hospitals are bracing for mass staffing shortages as the state deadline for health care workers to get vaccinated hits Monday.Hospitals and nursing homes have created backup plans such as …

www.google.com

Again, we were talking about Utah but sure “many places.” Let’s talk about “many places.” statistically speaking, very few who say that they’ll quit their jobs rather than get vaccinated actually follow through.

Like his entire thread here shows this. Most trumpers/anti vaxxers are all talk when their jobs are put on the line.

 

[One Brow]

One of the points I made multiple times is that an unvaccinated person who had covid is more protected than a vaccinated person who never had covid. And gandalf, the illiterate pig, tried to argue otherwise.

You are completely wrong. This antivaccine trope has been around for decades, and it's just as wrong as it has always been. Vaccines provide better protections that recovering from covid19.

COVID-19: Disease-induced (natural) immunity, vaccination or hybrid immunity?

If you’ve had COVID-19 before, does your natural immunity work better than a vaccine?

www.nebraskamed.com

COVID-19 immunity: Infection compared with vaccination | British Society for Immunology

The British Society for Immunology has partnered with the UK Coronavirus Immunology Consortium (UK-CIC) to create an infographic which explains the similarities and differences in immunity against COVID-19 gained through infection with SARS-CoV-2 compared with vaccination. Scroll down this page...

www.immunology.org

Coronavirus Disease 2019

CDC provides credible COVID-19 health information to the U.S.

www.cdc.gov

Vaccines beat natural immunity in fight against COVID-19

The best protection against COVID-19? Getting vaccinated, not waiting for illness to create natural immunity, says infectious disease expert Anna Durbin

hub.jhu.edu

Even if you were right, which you obviously are not, your point would be irrelevant.

Not everyone needs to minimize those effects.

True. Just people who love their country. Traitors have no reason to get vaccinated.

The point is with the vaccine available, life can resume without discriminating against the unvaccinated, since the risk is incredibly low.

The vaccine offers 90% effectiveness, and natural immunity even less. The risk is not that low.

Also, I'm done with this thread most people here seem to be pious or straight up bad people. I've had my fill of using science to debunk the hate-filled drivel.

I never tire of using science to debunk hate-filled drivel, but I also welcome your ceasing to post drivel (hate-filled or otherwise).

 

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Plus, the unvaccinated are clearly the most likely Petri dish for the emergence of a variant more likely to get around the current vaccines.

True, but so far, @SteakNEggs has been posting about what affects his immediate concerns, so I tried addressing them directly.

 

[NAOS]

It’s amazing how this

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The other side of the coin is how amazing it is that, for people who opt more for our persuasions, even after the politics of Trump and COVID-19, we’re still finding room to be surprised at how self-serving and short-sighted most of American society is. In one way or another. And on the Left, too.

For me, I’m often still surprised by the effectiveness of players who are clearly operating in bad faith.

 

[SteakNEggs]

meh. Stay home if y’all are so scared about 90%. I knew i should’ve just kept my mouth shut. I’ve been to both Utah games and the BYU game and the numbers are stagnant. Be afraid…

my bad. Back to nba basketball.

 

[NAOS]

meh. Stay home if y’all are so scared about 90%. I knew i should’ve just kept my mouth shut. I’ve been to both Utah games and the BYU game and the numbers are stagnant. Be afraid…

my bad. Back to nba basketball.

Reducing the stance to “scared” is kind of offensive.

 

[SteakNEggs]

Reducing the stance to “scared” is kind of offensive.

Sorry

 

[Just Ted]

This is great. We all know the cvaccinated can’t spread the virus right? Right?

 

[gandalfe]

This is great. We all know the cvaccinated can’t spread the virus right? Right?

Those who are vaccinated are less likely to catch Covid, and, therefore, less likely to spread it. As I mentioned above, it's something on the order of 20 times less likely.

 

[FalseFlagg K]

The vaccine is only 90% effective. That means you might still be vulnerable.

true and most likely considerably less if it's been 6 months or more since you had your vaccination. People in the US are nuts if they're not still taking all the other precautions

 

[Deron Williams]

So you agree that the vaccine is better than natural immunity?

You're such a simple-minded moron. Did you even read the CDC paper that was linked or just the headline? Hint: It doesn't compare natural immunity to vaccine immunity. It compares ppl w/natural immunity + the vax vs. just natural immunity.

It's not close. If you can have either the vax or natural immunity, natural immunity is better.

Comparing SARS-CoV-2 natural immunity to vaccine-induced immunity: reinfections versus breakthrough infections

Background Reports of waning vaccine-induced immunity against COVID-19 have begun to surface. With that, the comparable long-term protection conferred by previous infection with SARS-CoV-2 remains unclear. Methods We conducted a retrospective observational study comparing three groups...

www.medrxiv.org

 

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You're such a simple-minded moron. Did you even read the CDC paper that was linked or just the headline? Hint: It doesn't compare natural immunity to vaccine immunity. It compares ppl w/natural immunity + the vax vs. just natural immunity.

It's not close. If you can have either the vax or natural immunity, natural immunity is better.

Got any papers that passed peer review?

I offered four sources that confirm vaccination-generated immunity is better. You offered a decades-old anti-vaccine trope and a paper that hasn't even been positively reviewed.