So let me get this straight "no homo" is offensive

[spycam1]

 

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it is saying that before mentioned phrase/word is not meant in a homosexual way.

Exactly. It's gay fear/hate, not straight pride.

 

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Seems to me that those who cry most for tolerance are the most intolerant.

This was offensive?

Damn.

If this really gets your jock in a twist then please switch lives with me.

it really dents their claim for equality when stuff like this is deemed "offensive." Last I checked, inequality didn't mean that you could do and say whatever the hell you wanted or else you could attack the "others" for being hateful bigots. My goodness. If you want equality then deal with some of the jokes that we ALL have to deal with. Shessh.

It seems like in America today no one can say anything anymore without being labeled hateful or a bigot. I feel like eating some brats this weekend. Ohhhhhhhh the ACLU is gonna force me to apologize to the gay community because somehow that's offensive. I feel like eating some oreos and dunking them in milk ohhhhhh someone is gonna bust be up for being racist. Basically, the only thing that can be made fun of today are white people and Christianity.

sigh

Why is it so important to you to use terms that denigrate other groups?

 

[carolinajazz]

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At least we've still got white guys to kick around.

......yeah, and you guys sure like to pick on me because of that!

 

[Bronco70]

Sorry to say, but this is the price you pay for diversity. You know... humans being humans. I'm all for diversity, but I'm also realistic enough to realize that there are inherent problems that will arise.

The world is full of hate, insensitivity, and bigoted idiots. But getting your knickers in a twist over every little slight is counterproductive. We need to stop being offended so easily.

 

[Stoked]

Sorry to say, but this is the price you pay for diversity. You know... humans being humans. I'm all for diversity, but I'm also realistic enough to realize that there are inherent problems that will arise.

The world is full of hate, insensitivity, and bigoted idiots. But getting your knickers in a twist over every little slight is counterproductive. We need to stop being offended so easily.

Political correctness is an abomination.

 

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Political correctness is an abomination.

Yet, in the fight against it, the usual attack is upon simple politeness.

 

[Stoked]

Yet, in the fight against it, the usual attack is upon simple politeness.

Sometimes yes it is. But many of the currently preferred terms are idiotic and not using preferred terms is not automatically impolite.

 

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Sometimes yes it is. But many of the currently preferred terms are idiotic and not using preferred terms is not automatically impolite.

I agree with the literal meaning of what you said. However, based on history, I suspect you are using that literal meaning as a cover for other meanings.

 

[Stoked]

I agree with the literal meaning of what you said. However, based on history, I suspect you are using that literal meaning as a cover for other meanings.

OK fine let us use a common example.

African American. Are you kidding me? The vast majority, hell I'd say 95%, of people that use that to describe themselves have as much current connection to Africa as I do. They are American and that's it. Now don't get me wrong, there is absolutely nothing wrong with being African. I actually think that is kind of cool. But I am supposed to call you an African American when you, your parents, their parents and their parents were all born in America? Sorry but no. The only way I can see someone claiming that title is if they actually have dual citizenship. Then by all means. But that is not how it is used. It is used to replace the word black.

As far as I am concerned the classifications of asian, black, pacific islander, white, hispanic, native american and all others based on skin tone can be completely removed from American society. The sooner the better.

That is one of my major problems with political correctness. It tries to force classifications on society for things that truly do not matter. The sooner we stop carring about those classifications the better. By not caring I mean it having no bearing on our decision making/though process.

 

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The vast majority, hell I'd say 95%, of people that use that to describe themselves have as much current connection to Africa as I do.

I agree with what you said.

However, what you are saying seems to fail to take into account the treatments of being treated as outsiders in your own country, over a feature that is plainly visible. If you really want to remove terms like "African American" from the lexicon, don't look to the people who adopt it in response to differential treatment. Look to the people who engage in differential treatment.

 

[Stoked]

I agree with what you said.

However, what you are saying seems to fail to take into account the treatments of being treated as outsiders in your own country, over a feature that is plainly visible. If you really want to remove terms like "African American" from the lexicon, don't look to the people who adopt it in response to differential treatment. Look to the people who engage in differential treatment.

They should both be looked at. A victim of racism who acts in a way that reinforces that divide is still reinforcing that divide.

 

[franklin]

No ifs, ands, or butts about it!

No sniffs.

 

[The Thriller]

Sorry to say, but this is the price you pay for diversity. You know... humans being humans. I'm all for diversity, but I'm also realistic enough to realize that there are inherent problems that will arise.

The world is full of hate, insensitivity, and bigoted idiots. But getting your knickers in a twist over every little slight is counterproductive. We need to stop being offended so easily.

Exactly. People are just looking for things to get their panties in a twist over. Relax folks relax.

I don't agree with slurs like Kobe's F-bomb last year. Obviously that was bad and deserved the outrage. But this one, "no homo?" Seriously?! Come on people.

 

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They should both be looked at. A victim of racism who acts in a way that reinforces that divide is still reinforcing that divide.

Again, victim-blaming. Responding to a divide that already exists is not necessarily reinforcing it.

 

[Stoked]

Again, victim-blaming. Responding to a divide that already exists is not necessarily reinforcing it.

It is not victim blaming. Get over that worn out phrase already.

By indentifying yourself in a way that seperates you from others you are reinforcing that divide.

 

[DutchJazzer]

Why is it so important to you to use terms that denigrate other groups?

because sooner or later all terms would denigrate other groups.

 

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It is not victim blaming. Get over that worn out phrase already.

Accurate is accurate, regardless of wear or denial.

By indentifying yourself in a way that seperates you from others you are reinforcing that divide.

By choosing a name for a separation forced upon you by others, as opposed to accepting the name of the oppressors, you are working against the divide.

 

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because sooner or later all terms would denigrate other groups.

The denigration comes from a terms use in history in culture, and often can be reversed. For example, many people wear the terms "geek" and "nerd" as prideful nowadays.

At any rate, this does not explain why you want to use terms that are hurtful today.

 

[MoreFeasts]

The denigration comes from a terms use in history in culture, and often can be reversed. For example, many people wear the terms "geek" and "nerd" as prideful nowadays.

At any rate, this does not explain why you want to use terms that are hurtful today.

I am not sure that "no homo" is hurtful to homos generally. Can some of the board's homosexuals way in on this?