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Somebody explain Derrick Williams love to a Jazz Fan

It seems that everyone is concerned about Williams being a tweener.... He is a great athlete and a great BBall player. The team that drafts him will find a way to use his talents in a productive way. being a tweener has both drawbacks and possibilities. If he is too big and strong to be guarded by most SF's, and/or too quick to be guarded by PF's... Wouldn't a good coaching staff be able to find a way to use that to create mismatches?

Yes, I know it goes both ways, and he has to guard the other guy too, but I think you take the best overall Basketball player, and find away to fit him into your team. If Williams is available at the 3rd pick, it is likely to be him. Passing on the best player because of position scarcity feels a bit awkward to me.
 
I guess the risk is that he's a tweener like Marvin Williams, who hasn't had much of an impact after being picked #2 by Atlanta. They're both about the same size. IF D. Williams turns into a 12/5 player and isn't a real force at either the 3 or 4, that would be pretty disappointing. I don't think that happens, though. Derrick has had far better seasons in college than the year Marvin had. Worst case, I think, Williams could be a dominant force off the bench, just like Millsap used to be. I'm just hoping Cleveland takes Irving. I'd rather have the Jazz get Kanter or Williams vs. taking Irving. Decent PG's can generally be found lower in the draft. Maybe not this draft, but there will probably be some decent ones available with the GS pick.
 
GlassEater said:
I guess the risk is that he's a tweener like Marvin Williams, who hasn't had much of an impact after being picked #2 by Atlanta. They're both about the same size. IF D. Williams turns into a 12/5 player and isn't a real force at either the 3 or 4, that would be pretty disappointing. I don't think that happens, though. Derrick has had far better seasons in college than the year Marvin had. Worst case, I think, Williams could be a dominant force off the bench, just like Millsap used to be. I'm just hoping Cleveland takes Irving. I'd rather have the Jazz get Kanter or Williams vs. taking Irving. Decent PG's can generally be found lower in the draft. Maybe not this draft, but there will probably be some decent ones available with the GS pick.
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Marvin isn't really skilled and he isn't really athletic.
 
GlassEater said:
That's how I feel. If the Jazz get Kanter, I'll feel good knowing we'll never have to see a guy like Elson ever again. Someone always gets hurt for at least a few games so I'm not worried about playing time for Favors, Jefferson, Millsap, Okur and Kanter. Under that scenario, Millsap probably plays 10-15 mins at SF. He could handle the position against backup SF's. That would leave Utah with CJ as a starter for one more season, but a deal could always be made near the deadline (Okur or CJ's expiring). Or the Jazz just wait to use GS' pick on a small forward. Or maybe a SF like Leonard drops or Singleton or Honeycutt impresses enough to move up. If not, then I'm not dead set against Fredette at #12, or maybe Burks is still available.
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I agree. Next year has a lot of great options at the wing.
 
GlassEater said:
I'm just hoping Cleveland takes Irving. I'd rather have the Jazz get Kanter or Williams vs. taking Irving. Decent PG's can generally be found lower in the draft. Maybe not this draft, but there will probably be some decent ones available with the GS pick.
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I agree here too. Although if the Jazz had a chance at Irving I don't know that I could pass on him. I might though. I guess if Irving falls to 3 the Jazz take him. But yeah, I think I'd rather have one of the other two. I'm also not done with Biyombo yet. He's still got me spellbound. One of those 4 will be there at 3.
 
Let me clarify. If Irving fell to the Jazz at pick 3 I don't think I could pass on him. He's that good. And the thing is, on principle I hate drafting PGs with such high picks since 1) there are decent enough ones to be had in the teens and 20s, and 2) elite PGs don't necessarily equal championships. Give me someone like Rondo, selected at pick 21, over an exciting and expensive top pick. But yeah, Irving's really good so I don't know if I could pass on him. If the Jazz got the top pick I'd have to think it thru but since they don't, and so won't have a chance at Irving, I don't have to worry about it. I can just focus on Kanter, Dwill2, and Biyombo.

Am I crazy? That's not relevant.
 
Top picks arent expensive. And where are all these good PG's that arent drafted in the lottery?
 
Top picks ARE expensive - I'm not talking monetarily. Think of how hard it is to come by a top pick. You tank the entire season and some team with a way better record wins the top pick with only a 2% chance. Maybe I should've said top picks are RARE.

I cited Rajon Rondo, who in 2006 was drafted with pick 21.
 
I say "expensive" but what I mean is they're really rare and hard to come by. So I don't like to spend them on PGs since you can find guys like Rondo at 21.

Use those rare picks on rare commodities. PGs aren't rare, and to win you don't need an elite one anyway.

This is my opinion. You disagree. We're still friends.
 
BENTLEY said:
I say "expensive" but what I mean is they're really rare and hard to come by. So I don't like to spend them on PGs since you can find guys like Rondo at 21.

Use those rare picks on rare commodities. PGs aren't rare, and to win you don't need an elite one anyway.

This is my opinion. You disagree. We're still friends.
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I've also wondered where these late 1st round pg's that every team has have been hiding. For every Rondo there are 5 CP3's, Roses, Dwill's, Westbrooks etc.
 
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