Yeah, that's not true. Agents can dictate a lot. Plus there are players who have to workout for everyone because they can't afford to pick and choose.The only rookies that have options are undrafted. And they kinda… don’t have options.
Yeah, that's not true. Agents can dictate a lot. Plus there are players who have to workout for everyone because they can't afford to pick and choose.The only rookies that have options are undrafted. And they kinda… don’t have options.
Tell that to Austin ReavesThe only rookies that have options are undrafted. And they kinda… don’t have options.
Donovan fought for equality but was shut down... But that's on Utah, his efforts were observed by many around the league thus the perception remains ...I disagree.
Mitchell didn't make Utah look bad. Utah made Utah look bad.
“I hate to use names, but I will. Donovan Mitchell is not happy with us,” Adams says in the video. “And you start to get ... very popular sports stars like that that are pushing back. We’ve got work to do to try to educate them. My text back was, ‘Let’s get after him and let’s go tell him what we’re doing,’ because I don’t really think he understands what happened.”
On a separate issue, Adams also pointed to general pushback from sports organizations on a bill proposed earlier this year that would have banned transgender athletes in girls sports, but stalled.
“(The transgender athletes bill) made it through the House, came to the Senate, we thought we had it done, but then there was pretty good backlash from the Jazz and other sports organizations and the NBA, and it stalled in the Senate,” Adams said in the video. “I hate to tell you that, but it did.”
The Jazz have done good with their limits but I think it's clear our ceiling as a franchise, beyond getting two Hall of Fame players to commit to 10+ years with the team, is probably coming up just short of the NBA Finals (Stockton was in his 13th season with the Jazz when they finally made the Finals, Malone his 12th).
As a former denizen of SLC and a person that has lived in a total of six states all suburban, I would posit that SLC is among the most physically attractive. The combination of open roads (esp. after 10pm), clean air (non inversion), clean streets, low crime, majestic peaks and conveniently accessible outdoor recreation opportunities is hard to beat. Most outdoor recreation there is not even monetized. True, the pervasive Mormon culture can be oppressive and cultish, but by and large it is inconspicuous to outsiders. Overall, easy four star rating bore out by many best places to live polls.I can't really blame anyone for not wanting to live in Utah, since I personally don't want to live in Utah either. There are definitely much worse places to live though (I actually made a list in one of the other threads). The good news is that there are different strokes for different folks. A lot of people love living in Utah. Also, for the majority of players they are going to go where they will make the most money and have the best chance to succeed as a player.
As a former denizen of SLC and a person that has lived in a total of six states all suburban, I would posit that SLC is among the most physically attractive. The combination of open roads (esp. after 10pm), clean air (non inversion), clean streets, low crime, majestic peaks and conveniently accessible outdoor recreation opportunities is hard to beat. Most outdoor recreation there is not even monetized. True, the pervasive Mormon culture can be oppressive and cultish, but by and large it is inconspicuous to outsiders. Overall, easy four star rating bore out by many best places to live polls.
Now does all of that appeal to young adult black males in a predominantly white bread city with certain night life restrictions? Of course not! It’s an acquired taste. But for those in the know, retreating to the hills and lakes on off days and having easy access to the arena on work days definitely has its’ perks. I get the impression that a lot of former players have a real soft spot for the place.
True, initially at least. Gotta be a little Country I guess. Seems like Kessler, Agbaji, Sexton and THT have adapted and embraced it. I guess the hope is that the culture spreads to the rooks and other newcomers.Like you said, none of those upsides matter to a millionaire teenager.
Agreed with everything here but the oppressive language...As a former denizen of SLC and a person that has lived in a total of six states all suburban, I would posit that SLC is among the most physically attractive. The combination of open roads (esp. after 10pm), clean air (non inversion), clean streets, low crime, majestic peaks and conveniently accessible outdoor recreation opportunities is hard to beat. Most outdoor recreation there is not even monetized. True, the pervasive Mormon culture can be oppressive and cultish, but by and large it is inconspicuous to outsiders. Overall, easy four star rating bore out by many best places to live polls.
Now does all of that appeal to young adult black males in a predominantly white bread city with certain night life restrictions? Of course not! It’s an acquired taste. But for those in the know, retreating to the hills and lakes on off days and having easy access to the arena on work days definitely has its’ perks. I get the impression that a lot of former players have a real soft spot for the place.
Agreed with everything here but the oppressive language...
Mormon culture can come across as uncomfortable, inclusive, uppity, holier than thou, and a lot of things, but oppressive is a bit over the top. I went to Saudi Arabia 2 months ago where hands are cut off for stealing and heads are cutoff for selling drugs. People sell reeds in the streets... the purpose... to whip any woman who exposes her legs. If you don't veil your head you are seen as lessor than...
I lived in Hawaii where if you aren't native, you are outcast. Dude peed on my car just because I was a tourist (even though I lived there).
I lived in Mexico where terms unnacceptable to most are extremely common and where people pee in bags to throw them at opposing players on the soccer pitch.
When I lived in Alberta, Canadians wouldn't interact with me because they felt I was there to steal their jobs (similar perspective as many here in the US treat Mexicans and many Mexicans treat Guatamalans). Cold shoulder treatment at lunch, in meetings. Very uncomfortable, but clearly not oppressive.
Most places have some level of cultural discomfort, but perspective makes a big difference. Oppressive is a bit over the top methinks.
Perhaps we have seen each other retreating in the hills and lakes btw. I wouldn't know... I was too busy practicing wicken.
I have to give you a qualified like for your assessment as your points are definitely very valid and well stated. I could say that you took my statement out of context but I see that I was probably a little ambiguous in my delivery. As an insider it was oppressive for me. Had a cousin that lost a prestigious Professor position at BYU because he’s Gay. I did qualify my position that the Mormon culture is “inconspicuous” for outsiders however.Agreed with everything here but the oppressive language...
Mormon culture can come across as uncomfortable, inclusive, uppity, holier than thou, and a lot of things, but oppressive is a bit over the top. I went to Saudi Arabia 2 months ago where hands are cut off for stealing and heads are cutoff for selling drugs. People sell reeds in the streets... the purpose... to whip any woman who exposes her legs. If you don't veil your head you are seen as lessor than...
I lived in Hawaii where if you aren't native, you are outcast. Dude peed on my car just because I was a tourist (even though I lived there).
I lived in Mexico where terms unnacceptable to most are extremely common and where people pee in bags to throw them at opposing players on the soccer pitch.
When I lived in Alberta, Canadians wouldn't interact with me because they felt I was there to steal their jobs (similar perspective as many here in the US treat Mexicans and many Mexicans treat Guatamalans). Cold shoulder treatment at lunch, in meetings. Very uncomfortable, but clearly not oppressive.
Most places have some level of cultural discomfort, but perspective makes a big difference. Oppressive is a bit over the top methinks.
Perhaps we have seen each other retreating in the hills and lakes btw. I wouldn't know... I was too busy practicing wicken.
And Cam Whitmore..
I’ve read somewhere he’s off our board entirely too, maybe this could be the reason?
I think a big reason the Millers sold the Jazz is that they knew it was becoming increasingly difficult to attract and keep talent.
Toronto is the complete opposite it's literally one of the melting pots of the WorldAgreed with everything here but the oppressive language...
Mormon culture can come across as uncomfortable, inclusive, uppity, holier than thou, and a lot of things, but oppressive is a bit over the top. I went to Saudi Arabia 2 months ago where hands are cut off for stealing and heads are cutoff for selling drugs. People sell reeds in the streets... the purpose... to whip any woman who exposes her legs. If you don't veil your head you are seen as lessor than...
I lived in Hawaii where if you aren't native, you are outcast. Dude peed on my car just because I was a tourist (even though I lived there).
I lived in Mexico where terms unnacceptable to most are extremely common and where people pee in bags to throw them at opposing players on the soccer pitch.
When I lived in Alberta, Canadians wouldn't interact with me because they felt I was there to steal their jobs (similar perspective as many here in the US treat Mexicans and many Mexicans treat Guatamalans). Cold shoulder treatment at lunch, in meetings. Very uncomfortable, but clearly not oppressive.
Most places have some level of cultural discomfort, but perspective makes a big difference. Oppressive is a bit over the top methinks.
Perhaps we have seen each other retreating in the hills and lakes btw. I wouldn't know... I was too busy practicing wicken.