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Suns close to acquiring Turkoglu and Josh Childress

And acquiring Turkoglu who career is in a tail spin and Childress who did not win anything of significance with Olympiacos in two seasons would get them a championship?

Tail spin? He is one year removed from his best season...I'd say it is a solid risk/reward move.
 
I'm not saying Turkoglu's worthless. He's a good player. But he's 31 with 4 more expensive years. Phoenix had the leverage in that deal. They should have done better than just pawning off Barbosa on them.
 
Don't worry guys, KOC has got a master plan that will win us a championship ASAP.

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The part that kills me is that everyone just assumes that KOC is just sitting there doing nothing. It could just be that no one wants what the Jazz are able to offer right now. What the phrase again, takes two to tango?
 
I'm not saying Turkoglu's worthless. He's a good player. But he's 31 with 4 more expensive years. Phoenix had the leverage in that deal. They should have done better than just pawning off Barbosa on them.

I think Barbosa's role has diminished greatly with the emergence of young Nash. Dragic has made Barbosa completely expendable. He's just as athletic and a far better shooter and passer.
 
The part that kills me is that everyone just assumes that KOC is just sitting there doing nothing. It could just be that no one wants what the Jazz are able to offer right now. What the phrase again, takes two to tango?

Lets just sell the franchise. We've never been able to get a defensive center despite having one of the best offenses in the NBA for 3+ years. We've never been able to get rid of AK47. Never been able to get a halfway decent SG until Wes fell into our laps. Never been able to get a backup point guard (Price, Knight, etc have sucked). Can't move up in the draft. Can't get a FA. Can't get a trade. We just lose our best players for nothing.

Lets just throw our hands up in the air and wave the white flag.

While I understand that perhaps KOC is working his butt off, we just need to go off the proof of what's happening. Many teams around us are making moves. While we appear incapable or unwilling, to do anything.

As of right now, this next season is going to be a rebuilding one. Maybe we can make the lottery next year to make some serious upgrades.
 
Lets just sell the franchise. We've never been able to get a defensive center despite having one of the best offenses in the NBA for 3+ years. We've never been able to get rid of AK47. Never been able to get a halfway decent SG until Wes fell into our laps. Never been able to get a backup point guard (Price, Knight, etc have sucked). Can't move up in the draft. Can't get a FA. Can't get a trade. We just lose our best players for nothing.

Lets just throw our hands up in the air and wave the white flag.

While I understand that perhaps KOC is working his butt off, we just need to go off the proof of what's happening. Many teams around us are making moves. While we appear incapable or unwilling, to do anything.

As of right now, this next season is going to be a rebuilding one. Maybe we can make the lottery next year to make some serious upgrades.

You may just be the most over-dramatic poster in the short history of internet message boards.
 
Lets just sell the franchise. We've never been able to get a defensive center despite having one of the best offenses in the NBA for 3+ years. We've never been able to get rid of AK47. Never been able to get a halfway decent SG until Wes fell into our laps. Never been able to get a backup point guard (Price, Knight, etc have sucked). Can't move up in the draft. Can't get a FA. Can't get a trade. We just lose our best players for nothing.

Lets just throw our hands up in the air and wave the white flag.

While I understand that perhaps KOC is working his butt off, we just need to go off the proof of what's happening. Many teams around us are making moves. While we appear incapable or unwilling, to do anything.

As of right now, this next season is going to be a rebuilding one. Maybe we can make the lottery next year to make some serious upgrades.
Sweet rant bro.
 
This just makes me sick. I never thought I'd become part of the outspoken "fire KOC" clan and have defended him, but really? Look at our team. KOC just needs to be fired. He's not doing his job and he's sitting on his hands. Great teams make bold moves.
 
The part that kills me is that everyone just assumes that KOC is just sitting there doing nothing. It could just be that no one wants what the Jazz are able to offer right now. What the phrase again, takes two to tango?

The Suns are getting Childress for a 2nd round pick dude. A 2nd round pick! That's called an active GM. And the funniest part about it? The Suns don't even have a GM!
 
The telling part for me was seeing KOC at the Orlando Summer League, just watching the game with a dour look on his face. Know what, Walt Perrin should be scouting the OSL players. KOC's job is contacting agents and GM's, scouring for deals. Then again, we don't know what the directive has been from upstairs. I'm sure Greg has told him that he CANNOT exceed the luxury tax. And to his defense, we were unable to do anything with the MLE until either signing Wesley Matthews or matching/declining an offer sheet. That's what happens when you're over the cap. And you can thank Larry H. for that. He was the one who vetoed the AK for Marion deal.
 
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