The Biden Administration and All Things Politics

[fishonjazz]

View: https://youtu.be/vo8t86Fi2JQ

Great video that explains a lot. Talks a lot of **** on the Republicans but also talks some (accurate) **** on the Democrats.

 

[LogGrad98]

View: https://youtu.be/vo8t86Fi2JQ

Great video that explains a lot. Talks a lot of **** on the Republicans but also talks some (accurate) **** on the Democrats.

I usually can't stand Bill Maher but in this one he got it pretty correct. It's a little like Anthony Bourdain's piece on why Trump got elected in the first place. The democrat part. Can you be so inclusive that you are also very exclusive? Tough question.

 

[Deleted member 365]

MAGA is the most effeminate group out there. They claim to be all in on masculinity but… LOL. This is what they consider to be masculine?

Spoiler: Language and Don’t look while drinking coffee

View: https://twitter.com/ronfilipkowski/status/1581453129459322881?s=46&t=BQYz1WqE0SZ9CZrHfR6cAQ

 

[fishonjazz]

Uh oh, for those out there that thinks the justice system is being all weaponized by the dems and is out to get the republicans, dont read this:

As FBI probed Jan. 6, many agents sympathized with insurrection, according to newly released email

"I literally had to explain to an agent" the difference between Black Lives Matter police protests and the insurrection, email warns.

www.yahoo.com

In before "but the media is also controlled by the dems so cant believe anything you read"

“I literally had to explain to an agent from a ‘blue state’ office the difference between opportunists burning and looting during protests that stemmed legitimate grievance to police brutality vs. an insurgent mob whose purpose was to prevent the execution of democratic processes at the behest of a sitting president,”

USA TODAY reported last month, the FBI itself has also been heavily criticized for directing domestic extremism investigations overwhelmingly towards left-wing targets.

The FBI has a long and troubled history of focusing on groups on the left of the political spectrum while largely turning a blind eye to domestic extremists on the far-right, Matthew Guariglia, a policy analyst at the Electronic Frontier Foundation, told USA TODAY.

“Both historically speaking and in current events, we've seen the amount of surveillance that has been marshaled specifically against groups fighting for racial justice increased exponentially than from what we've seen being monitored on the right,” said Guariglia, who holds a doctorate in the history of police surveillance.

Beirich said given the conservative nature of law enforcement, there is bound to be some "overlap" into far-right extremism within the ranks. The biggest problem is a lack of action taken by departments to root out extremists on the payroll, she said.

 

[Bucknutz]

LOL

You realize that the five Republican counties that you randomly selected/marked (what was the criteria for that again?) that weren't included in the executive order are sparsely populated?

Criteria - flooding. From you article that you posted:
"Meanwhile, Orange county, a Democratic-leaning area which experienced historic flooding from the storm, received no voting exceptions, reported the Washington Post."

3 counties I posted about first
Seminole County - 467,000 people
Lake County - 384,000 people
Volusia County - 554,000 people
3 County Total - 1,405,000 people

3 other counties I posted about
Desoto County - 34,000 people
Hardee County - 25,000 people
Highlands County - 101,000 people
3 County Total - 160,000

6 County Total - 1,565,000

@The Thriller do you consider these counties sparsely populated? You have a case of 2 of the 6.

Orange County - 1,430,000 people

Just one of the three Republican counties that benefitted from the executive order, Lee county, has more population than the five others combined.

1. Lee County - 761,000 people
2. Charlotte County - 187,000 people
3. Sarasota County - 434,000 people
Total Population - 1,382,000 people

If you do the math right 1,565,000 > 761,000

I think you are a bit off here.

And the one Democratic county that the article was about and that wasn’t included in the executive order, Orange County, has a higher population than the eight Republican ones…

COMBINED.

Orange County - 1,430,000 people

Republican Counties - 2,947,000 people

Once again, I think you are off here.

Please make "Combined" font even bolder and larger, for more dramatic effect.

But certainly you already knew this since you’re an honest poster of great depth.

This is why I attach facts to my posts. You post garbage to scare people because you know they will not look up the details. This is why you have no depth. If you just did a bit of research, you would know exactly why Orange County would not fall under this executive order. Its for the same reasons the other 6 republican counties that had major flooding did not fall under it as well.

Lets take a look at Orange County during Ian (Category 1 Hurricane when it hit)

Schools Reopen - October 4th - 1 school had partial flooding a reopened on Oct 6th. - https://www.wftv.com/news/local/cen...ter-hurricane-ian/4MYSZGO2LBF3LO35QPAIA6MF7A/

Disney World - Reopened 2 days later - https://www.washingtonpost.com/travel/2022/09/29/disney-world-reopen-hurricane-ian/

Power - 99% restored by October 2 - https://www.fox35orlando.com/news/t...e-ian-heres-what-florida-power-and-light-says

Lets look at Lee County (Category 4 Hurricane when it hit)

Schools Reopen - 62% of schools by next week will be reopened - https://www.news-press.com/story/ne...chools-start-reopening-next-week/10490725002/

Tourism - Parks, Beaches and Boat ramps all closed - https://www.fortmyersbeachtalk.com/...offices-some-sites-reopen-post-hurricane-ian/

Power - 91% by October 7th - https://www.news-press.com/story/ne...es-cape-coral-sanibel-pine-island/8233569001/


So if you were being honest, you can see Lee and Orange were hit differently. If you were being honest you would say that this executive order served the people who were hit the hardest. Its not about politics.

If you really want to see Orange County compared to Lee County, come on down. We could use your help. We will be going down to Lee almost every weekend to help clear trees, tarping roofs and cleaning up debris.

 

[Bucknutz]

I see you already edited this link and the rest of the post off. Was it because we had this discussion before?



Here was our past conversation about it.

She had served her debt to society. It’s interesting how you attack when reading skills. That’s a long tried white supremacist reason for literacy tests.

It’s not. It’s following basic rules. There are 2 types of felons not allowed to vote in Florida. Sexual and Murder. Clearly states this. Lack of reading skills is not by race but by poverty.

Boosting Adult Literacy Rates in the Black Community | Atlanta Daily World​

Libraries and community volunteers are leading the effort to bring reading, writing, and math skills to the one-fourth of Black adults who are considered low literacy. by Maya Pottiger March 10, 2022 While at the library making copies one day in 2018, Gregory Hill looked up and saw a sign...
atlantadailyworld.com

“Up-to-date adult literacy data, especially broken down into race and ethnicity demographics, is hard to come by. A 2019 report from the National Center for Education Statistics, which cited data from 2012 and 2014, found that 23% of Black adults in the country were considered to be low literacy, compared to 35% of white adults and 34% of Hispanic adults.”

It seems like more white adults are considered “low literacy” than black adults.
Thriller trying to play the race card.

So congrats on repeating Jim Crow reasoning for excluding POC from the ballot. Why continue to punish someone after they’ve paid their debt to society for 20 yrs?

Only 2 type of felons… Murder and Sexual. Once again you didn’t say anything about gun rights for these felons. I mean, if they paid their debt to society for 20 years, they should have the 2A right back. Or do you want to restrict rights that you don’t like.

You realize that we’re one of the only industrialized countries in the world that does this sort of thing, right?

I don’t live in the other Countries. They have different cultures and history than the USA. So why would it matter if Luxembourg has laws that differ from the USA. We are not the same country.

Had you read the entire article, you’d know that this is a systemic problem. There’s a systematic problem created by Florida Republicans to prevent former felons (who they know are majority POC) from voting.

There it is, the race card again. Former felons who are murderers and sexual predators.
Let’s see:

Perpetrators of Sexual Violence: Statistics | RAINN​

Three out of four rapes are committed by someone known to the victim.

www.rainn.org

57% are white. 27% are black. Doesn’t work for sexual predators

Arrests by offense, age, and race

Murders yep… 51% to 46% not by much

So no, it doesn’t effect black or brown persons more.

This clearly wasn’t what voters wanted when they voted clearly to restore voting rights to ex-felons.

Why do you say this? Where can you provide the data for this statement? They voted on this:
“Amendment 4 was designed to automatically restore the right to vote for people with prior felony convictions, except those convicted of murder or a felony sexual offense, upon completion of their sentences, including prison, parole, and probation.”

That’s exactly what they voted on.

I guess you want to continue to punish people after they’ve paid their debt to society but the voters of Florida don’t. Sadly, their Republican legislature and governor do, because racism and tribalism supersede any concern for human rights in the fascist party of Trump.

Again with the race card. No facts, just race card. Also “Trump”. Because everything you don’t like is because of Race or Trump. Just sad.

 

[Deleted member 365]

Criteria - flooding. From you article that you posted:
"Meanwhile, Orange county, a Democratic-leaning area which experienced historic flooding from the storm, received no voting exceptions, reported the Washington Post."

3 counties I posted about first
Seminole County - 467,000 people
Lake County - 384,000 people
Volusia County - 554,000 people
3 County Total - 1,405,000 people

3 other counties I posted about
Desoto County - 34,000 people
Hardee County - 25,000 people
Highlands County - 101,000 people
3 County Total - 160,000

6 County Total - 1,565,000

@The Thriller do you consider these counties sparsely populated? You have a case of 2 of the 6.

Orange County - 1,430,000 people

1. Lee County - 761,000 people
2. Charlotte County - 187,000 people
3. Sarasota County - 434,000 people
Total Population - 1,382,000 people

If you do the math right 1,565,000 > 761,000

I think you are a bit off here.


Orange County - 1,430,000 people

Republican Counties - 2,947,000 people

Once again, I think you are off here.

Please make "Combined" font even bolder and larger, for more dramatic effect.


This is why I attach facts to my posts. You post garbage to scare people because you know they will not look up the details. This is why you have no depth. If you just did a bit of research, you would know exactly why Orange County would not fall under this executive order. Its for the same reasons the other 6 republican counties that had major flooding did not fall under it as well.

Lets take a look at Orange County during Ian (Category 1 Hurricane when it hit)

Schools Reopen - October 4th - 1 school had partial flooding a reopened on Oct 6th. - https://www.wftv.com/news/local/cen...ter-hurricane-ian/4MYSZGO2LBF3LO35QPAIA6MF7A/

Disney World - Reopened 2 days later - https://www.washingtonpost.com/travel/2022/09/29/disney-world-reopen-hurricane-ian/

Power - 99% restored by October 2 - https://www.fox35orlando.com/news/t...e-ian-heres-what-florida-power-and-light-says

Lets look at Lee County (Category 4 Hurricane when it hit)

Schools Reopen - 62% of schools by next week will be reopened - https://www.news-press.com/story/ne...chools-start-reopening-next-week/10490725002/

Tourism - Parks, Beaches and Boat ramps all closed - https://www.fortmyersbeachtalk.com/...offices-some-sites-reopen-post-hurricane-ian/

Power - 91% by October 7th - https://www.news-press.com/story/ne...es-cape-coral-sanibel-pine-island/8233569001/


So if you were being honest, you can see Lee and Orange were hit differently. If you were being honest you would say that this executive order served the people who were hit the hardest. Its not about politics.

If you really want to see Orange County compared to Lee County, come on down. We could use your help. We will be going down to Lee almost every weekend to help clear trees, tarping roofs and cleaning up debris.

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Okay let’s clarify some things here (I’m already regretting this)

It’s hard to follow you since I looked up the 3 red counties (Sarasota, Charlotte, and Lee) directly hit on the map you provided and were cited by the article as being included in the executive order. By your own numbers, these 3 counties COMBINED have a population of: 1,382,000

Orange County, the Democratic county not included in the executive order has a population that according to your own numbers of: 1,430,000.

1,430,000 > 1,382,000

And we don’t see a problem with that? It disproportionately hurts Democrats and helps Republicans.

Then, you randomly found 5 red counties suffering from flooding and marked them on the map. These 5 counties weren’t part of the executive order. Okay. So the 5 red counties according to your own numbers (Lake, Volusia, Hardee, DeSoto, Highlands) have a combined population of:

1,101,000 people.

1,430,000 > 1,101,000. Which is also less than the population of the 3 red counties that were included in the executive order. So including 5 more probably would’ve been overkill, don’t you think? DeSantis just needs to give his team an advantage, not blow out the competition and bring about unnecessary attention/lawsuits, right?

I didn’t include seminole county since you didn’t include it on the map/find a map with it on it. So that’s 8 counties total.



Now I’m open to reconsider if the 3 red counties (Sarasota, Charlotte, and Lee) really were the most devastated areas. But are they? You haven’t even made that claim. You’ve claimed that other areas are also flooded. So it does make it look like DeSantis is exploiting this to help some of the most high populated Republican countries. And let’s be honest, your amoral governor has a thing for exploiting people suffering in horrible circumstances for his own political advantage. It’s sort of his MO, whether we’re talking about hurting the LGBT community or asylum seekers, Right? So it isn’t exactly surprising if your Gov sought to exploit this hurricane in order to play politics in a year he’s up for re-election, right? Again, I’m open to reconsider. But the original article seemed pretty damning.

Authoritarian governments of illiberal democracies don’t overtly disrupt elections. They’re not going to just blow things out of proportion by making it easier for their own to vote spread across 8+ counties. They’re more subtle, like making it harder for 1.4 million in one of the few counties where their political opponents reside to vote while making it easier for 1.3 million of their own in 3 counties.

Again, if you’re having to include 8+ Republican counties to 1 Democratic county as a sign of “See see! We’re not playing politics” I’ll give you a hint, you probably are.

As far as hurricane relief, you decided to live there. I guess living in Florida has pros and cons, right? God bless you and your recovery. And isn’t it nice to have a president and a congress who’ll offer much needed relief without demanding you kiss the ring (lost track of how many times Dump did this) or go on some crusade about government spending, like republicans did after Sandy?

Natural disasters have a way of putting things in perspective right? Hopefully you keep the importance and value of life in mind the next time your governor Sends a bunch of poor asylum seekers to some random blue state without coordinating with that particular blue state. I just want people to be treated right. Human life is precious and natural disasters have a way of reminding us about what’s important in life. It’s again why it’s so important to elect moral leaders who actually want to govern, not just throw bombs, get onto Fox News, or turn their time in leadership into a reality tv show.

But god bless you. Thoughts and prayers for your recovery. I wish you all the best of luck.

I deleted the link to the felon issue because it made no sense to declare that I didn’t want to debate further while posting that. Im not one Brow and don’t enjoy wasting time arguing with people who just enjoy arguing and aren’t open to anything other than their own POV so again, I’ll bow out of this conversation, for good this time.

Once again, good luck with your hurrican recovery.

 

[Bucknutz]

Okay let’s clarify some things here (I’m already regretting this)

It’s hard to follow you since I looked up the 3 red counties (Sarasota, Charlotte, and Lee) directly hit on the map you provided and were cited by the article as being included in the executive order. By your own numbers, these 3 counties COMBINED have a population of: 1,382,000

Orange County, the Democratic county not included in the executive order has a population that according to your own numbers of: 1,430,000.

1,430,000 > 1,382,000

And we don’t see a problem with that? It disproportionately hurts Democrats and helps Republicans.

No. You are trying to make a case that DeSantis is authoritarian because Orange County didn’t get some extended voting options because they are Democrats.
The real reason Orange County had major isolated flooding in about 4-5 small areas. Yet the whole county was back to normal in less than 5 days.
The 3 counties on the coast actually got destroyed and they are still not back to normal.
But you can’t see the difference. Your left wing POV will not allow that to happen.

Then, you randomly found 5 red counties suffering from flooding and marked them on the map.

They are not random counties. They were in the hurricane path, that caused major isolated flooding.

Authoritarian governments of illiberal democracies don’t overtly disrupt elections. They’re not going to just blow things out of proportion by making it easier for their own to vote spread across 8+ counties. They’re more subtle, like making it harder for 1.4 million in one of the few counties where their political opponents reside to vote while making it easier for 1.3 million of their own in 3 counties.

Tell me Thriller, what did DeSantis do to make it harder for Orange County to vote? Please be specific? The county that was back to normal in 5 days.

Again, if you’re having to include 8+ Republican counties to 1 Democratic county as a sign of “See see! We’re not playing politics” I’ll give you a hint, you probably are.

I don’t know what more I can do, to explain to you it wasn’t based of politics. The left tried to go after him, to play politics. And you fell for it.

As far as hurricane relief, you decided to live there. I guess living in Florida has pros and cons, right? God bless you and your recovery. And isn’t it nice to have a president and a congress who’ll offer much needed relief without demanding you kiss the ring (lost track of how many times Dump did this) or go on some crusade about government spending, like republicans did after Sandy?

Natural disasters have a way of putting things in perspective right? Hopefully you keep the importance and value of life in mind the next time your governor Sends a bunch of poor asylum seekers to some random blue state without coordinating with that particular blue state. I just want people to be treated right. Human life is precious and natural disasters have a way of reminding us about what’s important in life.

But god bless you. Thoughts and prayers for your recovery. I wish you all the best of luck.

Thanks but I’m good. Nothing to recover from. In Hillsborough county we had isolated flooding and we were right back to normal in 5 days, just like Orange County.

I deleted the link to the felon issue because it made no sense to declare that I didn’t want to debate further while posting that.

Probably a good call.

Im not one Brow and don’t enjoy wasting time arguing with people who just enjoy arguing and aren’t open to anything other than their own POV so again, I’ll bow out of this conversation, for good this time.

This is you. You are not open to anything but your point of view. This is why I respond to your posts. You are so blinded by the left propaganda twitter posters and you can’t see what really is happening.

Come down, I promise you will be able to see the difference in Counties.

 

[Deleted member 365]

For those interested in student loan relief!

https://studentaid.gov/debt-relief/application

I’ll take this over defunding FEMA to build some crappy fence, or yelling at an Asian American reporter, or praising “my people” for smearing feces all over Pelosi’s office. Isn’t it nice to have a government that helps people?

 

[LogGrad98]

Criteria - flooding. From you article that you posted:
"Meanwhile, Orange county, a Democratic-leaning area which experienced historic flooding from the storm, received no voting exceptions, reported the Washington Post."

3 counties I posted about first
Seminole County - 467,000 people
Lake County - 384,000 people
Volusia County - 554,000 people
3 County Total - 1,405,000 people

3 other counties I posted about
Desoto County - 34,000 people
Hardee County - 25,000 people
Highlands County - 101,000 people
3 County Total - 160,000

6 County Total - 1,565,000

@The Thriller do you consider these counties sparsely populated? You have a case of 2 of the 6.

Orange County - 1,430,000 people

1. Lee County - 761,000 people
2. Charlotte County - 187,000 people
3. Sarasota County - 434,000 people
Total Population - 1,382,000 people

If you do the math right 1,565,000 > 761,000

I think you are a bit off here.


Orange County - 1,430,000 people

Republican Counties - 2,947,000 people

Once again, I think you are off here.

Please make "Combined" font even bolder and larger, for more dramatic effect.


This is why I attach facts to my posts. You post garbage to scare people because you know they will not look up the details. This is why you have no depth. If you just did a bit of research, you would know exactly why Orange County would not fall under this executive order. Its for the same reasons the other 6 republican counties that had major flooding did not fall under it as well.

Lets take a look at Orange County during Ian (Category 1 Hurricane when it hit)

Schools Reopen - October 4th - 1 school had partial flooding a reopened on Oct 6th. - https://www.wftv.com/news/local/cen...ter-hurricane-ian/4MYSZGO2LBF3LO35QPAIA6MF7A/

Disney World - Reopened 2 days later - https://www.washingtonpost.com/travel/2022/09/29/disney-world-reopen-hurricane-ian/

Power - 99% restored by October 2 - https://www.fox35orlando.com/news/t...e-ian-heres-what-florida-power-and-light-says

Lets look at Lee County (Category 4 Hurricane when it hit)

Schools Reopen - 62% of schools by next week will be reopened - https://www.news-press.com/story/ne...chools-start-reopening-next-week/10490725002/

Tourism - Parks, Beaches and Boat ramps all closed - https://www.fortmyersbeachtalk.com/...offices-some-sites-reopen-post-hurricane-ian/

Power - 91% by October 7th - https://www.news-press.com/story/ne...es-cape-coral-sanibel-pine-island/8233569001/


So if you were being honest, you can see Lee and Orange were hit differently. If you were being honest you would say that this executive order served the people who were hit the hardest. Its not about politics.

If you really want to see Orange County compared to Lee County, come on down. We could use your help. We will be going down to Lee almost every weekend to help clear trees, tarping roofs and cleaning up debris.

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Everyone's missing the bigger point: why not just make a state-wide executive order to make it easier to vote? Why pick individual counties in the first place? As you pointed out, many places were hit with historic damage, in some form, so why not just make it state-wide? If it's ok for some to have easier access to voting why is it bad for everyone else? It kind of flies in the face of everything the Republicans have been screaming about this whole time. As long as something happens somewhere that makes it ok for us to think there won't be voter fraud then there will be voter fraud? It's stupid in the extreme and just makes it look even more partisan. We can trust these guys with looser voting laws but we can't trust those guys, because damage is worse than flooding so obviously they won't voter fraud anyone, but we still can't trust you mother****ers no matter how much water was in your house. So ****ing stupid. DeSantis basically saying we have no problem with making it easier to vote as long as we decide who gets it. Which tacitly admits there really isn't an issue with it. Dumb dumb dumb.

 

[Deleted member 365]

Everyone's missing the bigger point: why not just make a state-wide executive order to make it easier to vote? Why pick individual counties in the first place? As you pointed out, many places were hit with historic damage, in some form, so why not just make it state-wide? If it's ok for some to have easier access to voting why is it bad for everyone else? It kind of flies in the face of everything the Republicans have been screaming about this whole time. As long as something happens somewhere that makes it ok for us to think there won't be voter fraud then there will be voter fraud? It's stupid in the extreme and just makes it look even more partisan. We can trust these guys with looser voting laws but we can't trust those guys, because damage is worse than flooding so obviously they won't voter fraud anyone, but we still can't trust you mother****ers no matter how much water was in your house. So ****ing stupid. DeSantis basically saying we have no problem with making it easier to vote as long as we decide who gets it. Which tacitly admits there really isn't an issue with it. Dumb dumb dumb.

Because when turnout goes up the chances for Republicans to win goes down. This has been the same thinking for over 40 years even though I don’t think it necessarily plays out that way anymore. Especially in a state like Florida with so many Cuban Americans. But it’s hard to break free of such anti-democratic thinking because it’s been baked into the GOP mindset for so long.

Plus, the cruelty is the point. Democrats want to make voting easier so automatically, reflexively, Republicans will be against it. At this point, Biden could find a cure for cancer and Republicans would be against it. And we’ve seen throughout DeSantis’s career that he prioritizes hurting people while serving his base red meat over actually solving problems or helping anything.

• Trash talk on Fox News. As long as you keep pumping out the propaganda, your base won’t know anything else.
• Enrich yourself and your richest donors. Stack the courts and government positions with toadies. Make it harder for your opponents to vote and have representation so you maintain power easier.
• Use government to crush perceived political opponents. Ownthelibs with cruelty and bigotry to keep the base energized and engaged.

That’s governing Republican style in this century.

 

[One Brow]

LOL

You realize that the five Republican counties that you randomly selected/marked (what was the criteria for that again?) that weren't included in the executive order are sparsely populated?

The point @Bucknutz made was that Orange County was relative far from the impact zone, unlike the three Republican counties. Hardee/Highlands/DeSoto were all closer. Perhaps the decisions was not primarily partisan.

 

[LogGrad98]

The point @Bucknutz made was that Orange County was relative far from the impact zone, unlike the three Republican counties. Hardee/Highlands/DeSoto were all closer. Perhaps the decisions was not primarily partisan.

See my previous point where it just proves they can loosen these laws for some, then why not for all. Maybe selecting the exact counties wasn't specifically partisan but limiting it in the first place sure as hell was.

 

[Gameface]

See my previous point where it just proves they can loosen these laws for some, then why not for all. Maybe selecting the exact counties wasn't specifically partisan but limiting it in the first place sure as hell was.

Seems like opening themselves up to a lawsuit by having different rules for different voters. I agree that if they're going to do it they should probably just do it state-wide.

 

[LogGrad98]

Seems like opening themselves up to a lawsuit by having different rules for different voters. I agree that if they're going to do it they should probably just do it state-wide.

Yes, and then why not nationwide? There is no good answer for that other than the thoroughly debunked complete and utter ******** specter of "voter fraud".

My eyes rolled so hard they spun around like a slot machine right there.

 

[Deleted member 365]

Yes, and then why not nationwide? There is no good answer for that other than the thoroughly debunked complete and utter ******** specter of "voter fraud".

My eyes rolled so hard they spun around like a slot machine right there.

A decent amount of Americans believe in that voter fraud garbage. Here’s the Republican today running for Gov in AZ. She’s beating the Democrat. She’s most likely to be the next Gov of not some ******** state with more cows than people. She’s probably going to be gov of a key swing state with millions of people, Arizona.


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[Deleted member 365]

The point @Bucknutz made was that Orange County was relative far from the impact zone, unlike the three Republican counties. Hardee/Highlands/DeSoto were all closer. Perhaps the decisions was not primarily partisan.

I’m open to that. But it sure looks suspicious and the article I read sure gave us plenty of reason to suspect some foul play. And we have to admit, it would surprise no one if DeSantis were playing politics by exploiting the suffering from the hurricane.

 

[One Brow]

I’m open to that. But it sure looks suspicious and the article I read sure gave us plenty of reason to suspect some foul play. And we have to admit, it would surprise no one if DeSantis were playing politics by exploiting the suffering from the hurricane.

I always encourage skepticism. However, that does require changing your mind with new evidence. Even if you think a poster is wrong 99% of the time (no recent poster in this thread), hen they bring the data, you need tio check the data and apply some common sense.

 

[Deleted member 365]

Is this what the working class want?

Is this what the middle class need?


View: https://twitter.com/stevebenen/status/1582075071971045377?s=46&t=mR_Nw_5nkavxJOLvPe-GXg

 

[LogGrad98]

Is this what the working class want?

Is this what the middle class need?


View: https://twitter.com/stevebenen/status/1582075071971045377?s=46&t=mR_Nw_5nkavxJOLvPe-GXg

Wow. That's below the belt. It doesn't hurt them and their rich constituents love it, so they don't give a **** who it hurts. They are bordering on evil at this point. Slippery slope getting steeper.