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The Kids Are All Right

Kicky, did you not feel that the two children still wanting the attention of their "male father" was a slap in the face to lesbian parents?

The movie would have been the same if it was a heterosexual couple with an infertile husband and an artificial insemination donor.

The issue was not that Mark Ruffalo was a dude. The issue is that he was their biological father.

I'm going to blow your mind with some deep analysis here, but the title of the movie is "The Kids Are All Right."

Let that sink in for a bit.

The movie is basically saying that a two parent homosexual relationship still does not meet the needs of their children. Also the teen daughter definitely has ill towards her parents about them trying to create this artificial family.

Or that any two parents will have difficulty meeting the needs of children regardless of gender.

The kids aren't exactly thrilled with Mark Ruffalo either.

Also Kicky, you really dont think that the beginning sex scene with the lesbian parents was degrating? Again its a slap in the face to lesbian women to portray their intimate relations as very ackward and lacking any intimacy.

The "comical sex scene" has been a staple of film since the 1930s.
 
...I'm going to blow your mind with some deep analysis here, but the title of the movie is "The Kids Are All Right."

Let that sink in for a bit.

beantown said:
The movie is basically saying that a two parent homosexual relationship still does not meet the needs of their children. Also the teen daughter definitely has ill towards her parents about them trying to create this artificial family.

Or that any two parents will have difficulty meeting the needs of children regardless of gender.

The kids aren't exactly thrilled with Mark Ruffalo either.

bean, your daughter is adorable. she's what? about two? wait about 10-12 years and get back to us...

if you're lucky, about 5-10 years after that, the aliens will return her to the family nest.
 
The movie would have been the same if it was a heterosexual couple with an infertile husband and an artificial insemination donor.

Really Kicky? Did you even watch the movie? The only biological connection the brother and sister had to eachother was Mark Ruffulo. That would not happen in a heterosexual couple because the mother would both have genetic connection to both children.

The son deeply wants a male role model. That is the reason he has the wierd relationship with his friend. He also is saddened his biological father was not into sports as much as he was.

The daughter has ill feelings towards her mothers. Especially Bening for trying to create the "perfect lesbian family". She explicitly yells at them about that and slams her bedroom door. She also craves a relationship with a father figure as she spends huge amounts of time with him. She also has no way to act around boys as she's 18 and going to college but yet she is still doenst know what to do around them. This shows with the ackward situation she has with her friend.

Benings character who is the dominating masculine lesbian in the relatioship feels threatened with Mark's character because she has always tried to provide that for the kids. It worsens when she finds out her partner is sleeping with him.

Again the first lesbian sex scene was extremely ackward and lacked intimacy. This is why Moore's character has the affair. She explains this at the end of the movie that she has not felt "close" with Bening and thats why she did it. I believe the first lesbian sex scene and multiple sex scene with Mark are a contrast on what she was expieriencing and what she was trying to fulfill. So again that lesbian sex scene was not for mere "comical relief" in the movie.

Kicky, if you didnt watch the movie just say so.
 
Really Kicky? Did you even watch the movie? The only biological connection the brother and sister had to eachother was Mark Ruffulo. That would not happen in a heterosexual couple because the mother would both have genetic connection to both children.

Interesting. My wife and I have no genetic connection to our children.
 
The son deeply wants a male role model. That is the reason he has the wierd relationship with his friend. He also is saddened his biological father was not into sports as much as he was...She also has no way to act around boys as she's 18 and going to college but yet she is still doenst know what to do around them. This shows with the ackward situation she has with her friend.
Uh, like, this all seems pretty normal for people raised by a mother and father. How many 18-year-olds have any ****ing clue how to act around those of the opposite sex (I haven't seen the movie)?
 
Uh, like, this all seems pretty normal for people raised by a mother and father. How many 18-year-olds have any ****ing clue how to act around those of the opposite sex (I haven't seen the movie)?

Well, lots of 18 y/os bone so I guess they do alright.
 
I was half-raised by homosexuals, does that make my situation applicable?

Anybody wanna ask me any questions?
 
You said they don't know how to act around the opposite sex. Bonin is how you should act.

Then you were askin if they're awkward.
Fair enough.

I'm just saying it's not unusual for 18-year-olds to have difficulty dealing with members of the opposite sex in one way or another. It's safe to say all of us know at least a few people who fit that description.

The same can be said of kids who have trouble relating to their parents (distant or otherwise) due to dissimilar interests.
 
Really Kicky? Did you even watch the movie?

Yes Bean. You can even go through the "what's the last movie you've seen" thread back to when it was released in theaters if you like. Unless, of course, you think I planted a lie more than three months ago just to argue with you.

https://jazzfanz.com/showthread.php...ovie-You’ve-Seen?p=38526&viewfull=1#post38526

The only biological connection the brother and sister had to eachother was Mark Ruffulo.

And? Do you deny that they behave as if they are brother and sister? Why does this matter? Does the premise of "kids want to meet their biological father" change one iota if the kids are adopted or were conceived through artificial insemination to a "traditional" family.

Let me tell you bean, those movies exist.

That would not happen in a heterosexual couple because the mother would both have genetic connection to both children.

I will admit that the plot does not occur if the parents are also the biological parents. Similarly, adopted children don't go looking for their biological parents when they live with them. You've put together a stunning piece of analysis.

The son deeply wants a male role model.

He also wants someone different than his parents. This is hardly unique to lesbian couples with children.

That is the reason he has the wierd relationship with his friend.

There's a lot of different things going on there. You're being more than a little reductionist.

He also is saddened his biological father was not into sports as much as he was.

And this means what? It turns out neither his parents nor his biological father are who he wanted them to be? Maybe THAT has something to do with the message of the film.

The daughter has ill feelings towards her mothers.

Also, she's 18.

Especially Bening for trying to create the "perfect lesbian family". She explicitly yells at them about that and slams her bedroom door. She also craves a relationship with a father figure as she spends huge amounts of time with him. She also has no way to act around boys as she's 18 and going to college but yet she is still doenst know what to do around them. This shows with the ackward situation she has with her friend.

A teenager is upset with the role their parents have created for her, is awkward around members of the opposite sex, and is attracted to new and exciting situations. Nope, never seen that movie before. It's definitely not the plot of the first 30 minutes of Spider-Man.

But more seriously, the "my biological parents are probably different than my 'real' parents, I want to meet them and see what they have to offer" film is a staple. Ex: Flirting with Disaster.

The "awkward with the opposite sex" plot component is a staple of films with teenage characters regardless of family situation and always will be.

Again the first lesbian sex scene was extremely ackward and lacked intimacy.

This also happens in "away we go" between a heterosexual couple.

Kicky, if you didnt watch the movie just say so.

I saw the movie, I just didn't try to put my political agenda on someone else's work.

Maybe if you did the scantest bit of research you'd figure out just how unlikely your interpretation is.

The director and co-writer is Lisa Cholodenko. Look up her biography and tell me then if you think that was the message of the film.
 
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