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Wouldnt take anything away from a season where his main goal was to not suffer real injuries while suffering from fake injuries all season.

He didnt dunk over anyone... sure. Doesnt mean he couldnt.
IDK what to believe. He looked stiff at times. His shot selection was rough too... but I chalk that up to the tank. Wasn't like we were trying to maximize him.

I'm not sure what happens with him this offseason but I would guess his trade value has taken a significant hit. If there are no plans to move him then no big deal. Depending on where we land in the draft and what smoke there is about tanking next year I'm not sure subjecting Lauri and his trade value to another year of this is wise. 2.5 years of a 10-15 year career spent in the tank is really rough when you figure that's like half or a third of most guy"s "prime". I could see Lauri see the ping pong balls go wrong and telling the FO he's ready for a change (or it could be the other way around).

Really would be too bad because I like the guy and he seems to really love it here.
 
IDK what to believe. He looked stiff at times. His shot selection was rough too... but I chalk that up to the tank. Wasn't like we were trying to maximize him.

I'm not sure what happens with him this offseason but I would guess his trade value has taken a significant hit. If there are no plans to move him then no big deal. Depending on where we land in the draft and what smoke there is about tanking next year I'm not sure subjecting Lauri and his trade value to another year of this is wise. 2.5 years of a 10-15 year career spent in the tank is really rough when you figure that's like half or a third of most guy"s "prime". I could see Lauri see the ping pong balls go wrong and telling the FO he's ready for a change (or it could be the other way around).

Really would be too bad because I like the guy and he seems to really love it here.

It's very hard for me to imagine that Lauri is ok with a two year tank, and if he is, I'm not sure what that says about him?
 
It has to be added we saw few VERY short, small flashes on 2025 he still can be a force, but when he had few better games, that's when he was DNP'd for several games. His best games was on latter part of this season, when Collier ran the floor.

I have been thinking Jazz isn't really considering him to be on the market earlier than 2026-2027, which is why they didn't care about if his market value takes a hit. Why would they put him in iffy looks if they really was thinking this is the summer they'll expect offers? It wasn't something they probably was banking on at all. Yeah, speculative ****, but it's a boring times so it's all I got.

I think Jazz calculates the risk of his value going down is worth it, in case Jazz lands the clear #1 option, as they already know how well he played next to Conley, and 2022-23 Jordan Clarkson, whose dominant games were a bit looked down honestly. It was a really good season for JC in the offensive end and it allowed Lauri to be on his best. The league hadn't yet catched up on how mean threat he can be if they wont draw better defensive plans on him.

And why the risk of Lauri's value temporarily going down a bit might be worth it? There's few reasons: Jazz is in the middle of the rebuild, and at the time they can start winning more, Lauri has maybe two seasons left on his contract,three, if Jazz surprisingly is good on 26-27 already. At that point, his salary compared to the growing salary cap will be a less of a trouble to teams looking for the "final piece", maybe the luxyry #3 option or #2 option, in case if Lauri bounces back closer to his All star level.

Lauri's last season of contract is also only 22% of the cap which is pretty decent for a third option type of 7ft finisher. If Jazz has got their blooming rookie in style of Flagg, Lauri probably stays,and if not, they are going to probably look for the best possible deal.

I see it this way: next season Jazz needs to desert "let's try shots Lauri never have taken in his life", and when he plays, we draw the sets that makes him look good. As we see, Jazz can then just sit down whoever tf they want for the sake of tanking. 100K fine? Let me laugh... We can build up his value and still lose, if needed.

They can get more out of Lauri and still tank. I'd trade few offensive guards/wings away that only scores and has zero defense, and give those fga's to Lauri, and rookie contract players, whose value and growth must be the absolute no1 thing for Jazz.
 
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The older Ainge gets, the more he wants to extort from other GM's. Its the biggest risk in this whole rebuild.
And if @Handlogten's Heros ’ theory is correct and Ainge is an opportunist, there are costs to not having a plan. I live my life in this way which definitely has its benefits, until you realize something you wanted to do required lead-time that you pissed away dreaming of all the different possibilities with your flexibility.
 
Ainge overplayed his hand with Lauri. Should’ve probably done the GSW trade (Kuminga, Moody, probably two 1st and two swaps) or the OKC trade (Dort, three picks).
In hindsight extorting the Kings may have been the best route... getting their picks and swaps. I don't think OKC was on the table. Maybe GS of course.
 
And if @Handlogten's Heros ’ theory is correct and Ainge is an opportunist, there are costs to not having a plan. I live my life in this way which definitely has its benefits, until you realize something you wanted to do required lead-time that you pissed away dreaming of all the different possibilities with your flexibility.
So I think the idea was maybe one of the young fellas pops and shows out... you still tank hard... then you have whoever you draft, the young breakout guy, the AS in his prime in Lauri and can maneuver from there with picks. I don't know how big the trade cost is right now... may not be much if they didn't like the GS offer. I don't think no plan is what Ainge has... I think he has a general direction and then follows opportunities... which as you mentioned... is good and bad at times.
 
Locke is pushing two more years of tanking. It really does feel like Lauri will get traded and will never be part of the Jazz team that starts winning.
This from today. He has been talking about the buildup taking this long but I can't imagine us intentionally sucking like this for 2 more years. May not put our foot on the gas in 2027 but I can't imagine us still yanking on the Ebrake like we have.

One stroke of luck can change all that but I think the timeline is already a bit long for Lauri.
 
How much of his struggles you think are real vs tank is one thing....But I think it's a certainty that his trade value has dropped significantly. I wouldn't say he's negative, but we're not getting close to the packages we had preseason. We're in a weird spot because Lauri w/tank worked well, but I don't actually think we're in a good place to move forward with him. Even if we get Flagg, I think my preferred route would be to keep our pick next year and get lucky with the 26 draft. With Ainge being a stickler, I have a hard time believing he will take a subpar package for Lauri....I don't know what gives.

I think it's looking like a fairly bad mistake to not trade him before the season started. We may not have gotten an extra first we wanted, but we probably lost like 3 firsts value if we trade him now. If we don't trade him, I think we're in a bad team building situation with Lauri.

Tank more is the logical route, but I really question if Ainge would take a "losing" deal for Lauri and I don't think we should count on executing this epic tank again next year.
 
How much of his struggles you think are real vs tank is one thing....But I think it's a certainty that his trade value has dropped significantly. I wouldn't say he's negative, but we're not getting close to the packages we had preseason. We're in a weird spot because Lauri w/tank worked well, but I don't actually think we're in a good place to move forward with him. Even if we get Flagg, I think my preferred route would be to keep our pick next year and get lucky with the 26 draft. With Ainge being a stickler, I have a hard time believing he will take a subpar package for Lauri....I don't know what gives.

I think it's looking like a fairly bad mistake to not trade him before the season started. We may not have gotten an extra first we wanted, but we probably lost like 3 firsts value if we trade him now. If we don't trade him, I think we're in a bad team building situation with Lauri.

Tank more is the logical route, but I really question if Ainge would take a "losing" deal for Lauri and I don't think we should count on executing this epic tank again next year.
Wait... what do you think the offers were? I'm not even sure GS offered their full pick portfolio.

I still think a 3 team deal with Phoenix and KD or a deal to Detroit (but they may slow play things rather that rush) are the best opportunities.

I also share your concern on Ainge. He is patient to a fault and too value based at times. I can see him saying "we will get Lauri's value up over the first part of the year and move him in season" and then we mess up the 2026 draft pick a bit in the process. I think its only really a problem if we land Cooper as the other guys in the draft are more typical rookies and we can still execute a good tank while getting Lauri in a better position. Move Sexton/Collins and don't take back any real vets (or cut the ones you do). Manage back end of back to backs to make him look even more healthy.

I would guess that Lauri has lost like 25-33% of his value from last offseason. Because we don't really know what offers are out there its tough to do pick math on it. Now if we would have moved him after his AS year or with 1.5 years left on his deal... it might be like 50%+
 
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