I just wish he'd develop a sky hook. We've seen it a few times before but he's never consistently put it together. He'd be unstoppable on both sides of the floor.
No he's not. It's not even close. John Stockton is the best defender in team history. For so many seasons, he terrorized opposing PGs. He has more steals than any NBA player and it's not even close.I’ll co-sign on the Rudy Ride Or Die. I’ve always been a defense-first guy, and Rudy is the best defender in the history of the franchise.
Agree to disagreeNo he's not. It's not even close. John Stockton is the best defender in team history. For so many seasons, he terrorized opposing PGs. He has more steals than any NBA player and it's not even close.
For a season or two, sure Gobert might have been more impactful. For a career, Stockton is by a mile.
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Don't insult John. Three great seasons over 19? Amazing the recency bias....
That’s an excellent pointI just wish he'd develop a sky hook. We've seen it a few times before but he's never consistently put it together. He'd be unstoppable on both sides of the floor.
Giving credit to goberts greatness isn't the same thing as insulting Stockton silly.Don't insult John. Three great seasons over 19? Amazing the recency bias....
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My hell you’re an idiot!! And you could take one player to build a defense, ignoring all offense, who are you taking to make your defense as good as possible. Stockton or Gobert? If you for one second try to act all puffed up and say Stockton, then you shouldn’t be allowed to talk basketball, just try it I dare you!!No he's not. It's not even close. John Stockton is the best defender in team history. For so many seasons, he terrorized opposing PGs. He has more steals than any NBA player and it's not even close.
For a season or two, sure Gobert might have been more impactful. For a career, Stockton is by a mile.
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Somebody said Gobert is the best defender in the history of the franchise. I just don't believe it. Until the guy dominates when it matters, he's not a better defender than John Stockton in the history of the franchise.My hell you’re an idiot!! And you could take one player to build a defense, ignoring all offense, who are you taking to make your defense as good as possible. Stockton or Gobert? If you for one second try to act all puffed up and say Stockton, then you shouldn’t be allowed to talk basketball, just try it I dare you!!
If he has been gameplanned means that the oponent had changed, sometimes drastically, the way they played in order to offset his greatness. The fact that we've lost is mostly bc we lacked firepower and offensive variations than any other thing.Somebody said Gobert is the best defender in the history of the franchise. I just don't believe it. Until the guy dominates when it matters, he's not a better defender than John Stockton in the history of the franchise.
Using your measure, AK, Eaton and others could be considered better defensively than Stockton. However, basketball is a comprehensive sport. Stockton made his opponent work so hard on both ends of the court. His pressure on one end wore them out on the other and vice versa.
What John did defensively impacted the regular season and postseason for years. Gobert isn't there yet. Sure he has protected the rim well the last few years, but I'm not convinced come playoff time yet.
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The thing I don’t understand is the we should overpay Gobert because without him we’d suck. The goal is to win a championship not be the 4th-5th seed every year. Paying Rudy the supermax or anything close to that would significantly hinder this franchises ability to win a championship for years. It would have a lasting effect.
The thing I don’t understand is the we should overpay Gobert because without him we’d suck. The goal is to win a championship not be the 4th-5th seed every year. Paying Rudy the supermax or anything close to that would significantly hinder this franchises ability to win a championship for years. It would have a lasting effect.
The problem with this is not all were a 1 or two pick. I think Kawhi was #14-15 Kobe, I think 13, Giannis was 15, Steph 7. There’s still a **** tone of luck involved and the Shaw’s, LBJ’s and Duncan’s come along like once a decade at best.Getting a Lebron, Duncan, Kobe, Shaq, Giannis, Kawhi, Steph, KD
Elite players dominate despite the opposing team's gameplan. Gobert battled pretty evenly with Adams and was often outplayed by Capella in both Houston series.If he has been gameplanned means that the oponent had changed, sometimes drastically, the way they played in order to offset his greatness. The fact that we've lost is mostly bc we lacked firepower and offensive variations than any other thing.
No, he wasnt outplayed by Capela and no Adams wasnt even with him. That is the narrative some people tried to say but there isnt much to back that up.Elite players dominate despite the opposing team's gameplan. Gobert battled pretty evenly with Adams and was often outplayed by Capella in both Houston series.
Gobert was not an elite player in any of the 3 playoff series the last 2 postseasons. So far, he has underachieved and has only been an above average player. Favors outplayed him often. Gobert has to step up this year.
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