Yes, but your argument falls apart when it's pretty clear if he played like he did for the Pelicans for 2 months post-trade, the Jazz wouldn't have made the playoffs.
So I don't see how it's gravy when the Jazz would have lost the mashed potatoes.
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So I don't see how it's gravy when the Jazz would have lost the mashed potatoes.
The Jazz trade for Mirotic
Mirotic plays like he does for the Pelicans for the first two months
The Jazz are in the lottery
Jazz fans are calling for DL's head because he traded a lottery pick for an inconsistent PF
Mirotic plays like he does for the Pelicans for the first two months
The Jazz are in the lottery
Jazz fans are calling for DL's head because he traded a lottery pick for an inconsistent PF
The Jazz miss the playoffs and they are probably in the 12-14 draft pick range.
Fans would be bitching about missing out on Miles Bridges, SGA, or Michael Porter.
It's easy when you frame it as Allen or Mirotic, but that wouldn't be the case.
Fans would be bitching about missing out on Miles Bridges, SGA, or Michael Porter.
It's easy when you frame it as Allen or Mirotic, but that wouldn't be the case.
... maybe? Was he destined to have the same slump if he were to come here? I feel the fit would have been a lot more natural here from a more immediate perspective. Even so, him slumping was 14.6/8.2. But let’s pretend we didn’t make the playoffs: where are we now? What are our odds of retaining him this summer (vs. whatever the hell it is we’re going to do in reality next summer). What’s better in 2-3 years? Does Allen break out? Maybe. Is Favors still on the team?
Separate from my Niko arguments was that our pick was fool’s gold. At best, it was 14-15th (I said that repeatedly). I kept arguing that when Gobert returned we would win too much for that pick to matter. But, sure, some may complain. I wouldn’t. But this plays the hypothetical that we don’t make the playoffs. It also plays the hypothetical that we couldn’t have put protection on it (another debatable thing where everyone would default to “oh there’s no evidence that would have gotten a deal done” or people would default to “dude Stepien rule, we’d be ****ed for future assets to include in trades if we tied up picks!”)
The Pelicans protected their pick 1-5 in the trade. It goes to reason the Jazz couldn't have protected their pick for lottery and gotten the deal done.
Also, if we’re saying that trading for Niko was a no brainer is a conclusion one could only reach with a hindsight bias, it would help to combat that argument without a possible hindsight bias of saying we wouldn’t have made the playoffs.
They also took back garbage salary, something Chicago said they didn’t want. Chicago was asking for a first rounder, and nobody was biting. We could have closed the deal long before Boogie goes down with an injury. As it stood, Chicago was looking to have to put their tail between their legs on demanding a first rounder. NOP was looking to salary dump and was going to have to offer a first. Remember, they didn’t even want to guarantee Niko’s second year, because even NOP was viewing it as clearing salary, but got the bonus of filling Boogie’s spot.
But, like I said, Niko would fit well enough with them that they may let Boogie walk.
We couldn't close the deal lmao. They could have waited it out for the best deal, like they did. Like every team does.
And again, we get Niko we dont make the playoffs and everyone is bitching about how we lost out on SGA, Bridges, or Porter.
That's a guarantee.
That's a guarantee.
So then why was he traded a week before the deadline?
Cool. I’d rather listen to people be bitching about that than have to sit here wondering HTF we’re going to land another offensive option and quality PF.
I know I wouldn’t be bitching about it. That’s also a guarantee.