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Trade Rumors Involving the Jazz

YoungJefe said:
Going deep in the luxury tax to keep role players around 3 HOFers with multiple championships is basically the same as losing Jalen Brunson.
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Things don’t have to be perfectly analogous to be relevant. They are opting to surround their superstar player with less talent… and letting the guy walk that is closest to his timeline. A decision the Warriors could have easily made… but they chose to accept the extra talent they could get and figure it out later.

Brunsons deal is fine. He may be less effective as the Man… he may not have the benefit of the spacing their team provides… but he will be solid. If any team is guilty of bad management here I think it is more likely the Mavs… the same team that let future two time mvp walk because they thought his contract was too rich.
 
YoungJefe said:
Player A: 15.8 ppg, 3.1 rpg, 3.9 apg on 50/40/72 splits
Player B: 16.3 ppg, 3.9 rpg, 4.8 apg on 50/37/84 splits

Player A is Dinwiddie and B is Brunson. Idk how Dallas will ever recover.
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Go ahead and use the whole sample instead of cherry picking. It also isn’t an either or situation… they didn’t have to choose between those guys… you can compare Brunsons production this year to what Goran Dragic brings because that is who will replace him.
 
Handlogten's Heros said:
Things don’t have to be perfectly analogous to be relevant. They are opting to surround their superstar player with less talent… and letting the guy walk that is closest to his timeline. A decision the Warriors could have easily made… but they chose to accept the extra talent they could get and figure it out later.

Brunsons deal is fine. He may be less effective as the Man… he may not have the benefit of the spacing their team provides… but he will be solid. If any team is guilty of bad management here I think it is more likely the Mavs… the same team that let future two time mvp walk because they thought his contract was too rich.
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They have Dinwiddie on the roster for like $10M less and his production was almost identical to Brunson's in the regular season. They're also getting THJ back from injury next season.

Dallas is like Atlanta a couple of years back when they got favorable matchups and made a run to the conference finals. They proceeded by giving John Collins a huge deal then other teams got healthy, they came back to earth, and now they're desperate to trade him.

Brunson has had one good playoff run and has largely just been a role player, teams are maxing guys like that out?
 
Handlogten's Heros said:
Go ahead and use the whole sample instead of cherry picking. It also isn’t an either or situation… they didn’t have to choose between those guys… you can compare Brunsons production this year to what Goran Dragic brings because that is who will replace him.
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Dallas knows that with Brunson on a max they're still like the 4th-5th best team in the West. Why limit your ability to improve for 5 years for a player that has had one good run in the playoffs? He got worse as the playoffs went on and averaged 8 ppg in the playoffs last year...
 
YoungJefe said:
Dallas knows that with Brunson on a max they're still like the 4th-5th best team in the West. Why limit your ability to improve for 5 years for a player that has had one good run in the playoffs? He got worse as the playoffs went on and averaged 8 ppg in the playoffs last year...
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They aren’t limiting themselves by keeping him lol. They won’t have space… Dinwiddie is not nearly as durable… TH JR is like 10 years older than Luka… but by all means… pick those guys over the guy in his mid 20s that improves every year.
 
Handlogten's Heros said:
They aren’t limiting themselves by keeping him lol. They won’t have space… Dinwiddie is not nearly as durable… TH JR is like 10 years older than Luka… but by all means… pick those guys over the guy in his mid 20s that improves every year.
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Having Brunson at $30M for the next 5 years doesn't limit their roster flexibility significantly? They'd have 2 max deals. THJ was under contract already and not close to a max deal. They would've had the highest payroll in the NBA if they resigned Brunson for a team that almost swept in the WCF.
 
Like you guys are really trying to argue that the Mavs should have paid Brunson more than Tatum and Don, what a time to be alive.
 
YoungJefe said:
Having Brunson at $30M for the next 5 years doesn't limit their roster flexibility significantly? They'd have 2 max deals. THJ was under contract already and not close to a max deal. They would've had the highest payroll in the NBA if they resigned Brunson for a team that almost swept in the WCF.
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They don’t have to give him 30M… could likely keep him at 25 per on average… they wouldn’t have the highest payroll… warriors will be way higher. That’s part the difference though… warriors will pay like 100M between tax and salary just to keep Looney and Payton.


Mavs could find homes for Dinwiddie or TH and pay tax for a year then have flexibility. Or do what the Warriors did and flip Brunson later for different assets.

It is what it is… think it’s a significant loss and will come back to haunt them.
 
YoungJefe said:
Like you guys are really trying to argue that the Mavs should have paid Brunson more than Tatum and Don, what a time to be alive.
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Sure… that’s what we said…word for word…
 
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