Maneesh
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You have disgraceful personeven if the mf isn't unhappy being a loser and playing like **** this season, that is just another reason not to want him here.
So many Collins sock sniffers on here smh
You have disgraceful personeven if the mf isn't unhappy being a loser and playing like **** this season, that is just another reason not to want him here.
So many Collins sock sniffers on here smh
They are not a good fit with each other. But they are both quite different players since then.Pass on DLo.
I was living in LA when DLo and Clarkson were teammates for the Lakers. Really don't want to relive that with the Jazz. Mostly just want the Wolves to be stuck with DLo as their PG which should lead to the Jazz getting a really nice pick.
Agreed, both have made vast improvements in their games. I think they'd be fine, however I suspect that D'Lo will be on a very short leash. I think he's just a rental to shed some salary and make room for three rookies.They are not a good fit with each other. But they are both quite different players since then.
D’Angelo Russell is apparently on the block as he’s reportedly unhappy there and he’s UFA and see ya! I don’t think any of the big fish are gonna bite for a pick and a possible rebuff; and a sign and trade would be above market value according to his latest tweet.
It makes way too much sense for us to shed some salary going into a draft with three picks. We rent to own, but forget the ownership part and send Conley and THT and their overpriced deals a packin. I mean the lure of reuniting Conley with Gobert should be palpable for them and THT also has plenty of appeal. Should be enough to beat the competition and keep us out of the draft asset return conversation.
JC has made vast improvements.Agreed, both have made vast improvements in their games. I think they'd be fine, however I suspect that D'Lo will be on a very short leash. I think he's just a rental to shed some salary and make room for three rookies.
It's most likely because of his hand injury from last yearCollins is shooting 22.8% from 3 point land this year. His career average is like 35%. I want him to be the guy, but I’m not sure if he is or not.
Jazz talk starts around 21 minutes. MacMahon thinks Vando likely gets moved but doesn't seem to think he's worth a first round pick, mentions maybe a good 2nd or a couple of 2nds. Seems to think Beasley has more value, says the Jazz would want back a 1st round pick or a young player to add to their core going forward.
Pelton mentions hypothetical trade idea between Jazz and Clippers of Conley for Jackson/Covington and a 1st round pick. Pelton and MacMahon don't think the Jazz would take on Covington's salary for next year unless the Clippers include the pick. MacMahon mentions Kennard but Pelton doesn't think the Clippers would give him up.
MacMahon say the Jazz don't view Sexton as a starting point guard, they see him as a 6th man. Tony Jones also mentioned this recently and said it will require buy in from Sexton.
They don't think Collins would be a great fit with the Jazz. MacMahon wouldn't take on his contract unless the Jazz get back a first round pick as well.
View: https://twitter.com/espn_macmahon/status/1615529729112645634
Jazz talk starts around 21 minutes. MacMahon thinks Vando likely gets moved but doesn't seem to think he's worth a first round pick, mentions maybe a good 2nd or a couple of 2nds. Seems to think Beasley has more value, says the Jazz would want back a 1st round pick or a young player to add to their core going forward.
Pelton mentions hypothetical trade idea between Jazz and Clippers of Conley for Jackson/Covington and a 1st round pick. Pelton and MacMahon don't think the Jazz would take on Covington's salary for next year unless the Clippers include the pick. MacMahon mentions Kennard but Pelton doesn't think the Clippers would give him up.
MacMahon say the Jazz don't view Sexton as a starting point guard, they see him as a 6th man. Tony Jones also mentioned this recently and said it will require buy in from Sexton.
They don't think Collins would be a great fit with the Jazz. MacMahon wouldn't take on his contract unless the Jazz get back a first round pick as well.
View: https://twitter.com/espn_macmahon/status/1615529729112645634
I don’t really understand the Sexton hate… the Jazz seem to flow better when he is on the court, and he makes fewer mental errors than JC, THT or NAW. He does seem to be on an extremely short leash though.
Agreed, but if they also sent back a first round pick then I'd be very interested.
Jackson is a killer he killed us and RudyAlways disliked jackson's game. Covington used to be good, but i havent watched him much lately and have no idea how long his contract lasts. If you can dump gay and conley maybe?
Yes… they can also swap their pick this year. I think they can trade 2028 or 2029… I know they have at least 1 pick they can now trade.SO they even have a First Rounder they can trade? I thought they owed their entire future to OKC. . .
First of all, some here want to trade everyone who can bring back a FRP... except maybe Markkanen and Kessler who are the consensus "building blocks" (I guess Ochai doesnt give back enough to justify giving his recently flashed upside away). Part of it is to stack assets part of it is to outright tank our record this year.Can someone help me understand why we want to trade Vando? He’s young, on the right timeline, is long, is athletic, and is a tough guy that does the little things. Unless someone is willing to overpay for him, I wouldn’t want him to be included in a deal.
I totally get wanting to move Beasley, Conley, KO, etc.
I think the idea of Vando is better than the reality of Vando. He gets lost on his defensive assignment a lot. He is not even close to an efficient scorer. Many people confuse activity with effectiveness, and Vando is a prime example of that. He is fine to hold onto, but if you can get prime assets for him, cashing in on that perception of Vando as an energy/hustle guy that does the "little things", then you take it and run.Can someone help me understand why we want to trade Vando? He’s young, on the right timeline, is long, is athletic, and is a tough guy that does the little things. Unless someone is willing to overpay for him, I wouldn’t want him to be included in a deal.
I totally get wanting to move Beasley, Conley, KO, etc.
I speak the truth, and the truth has created enemies, who are wearing rose colored glasses, because that is their idea of fandom.You have disgraceful person
He is clearly not 100% or definitely is on a short leash for some reason. His pounding the air out the ball instead of quickly initiating the offense angers me sometimes. But, I think he is doing what Hardy wants, trying to get his team to their spots and run the plays. Maybe his perfectionism is the real issue that hurts him as a floor gen?Agreed. Dude looks amazing to me. Especially for someone so young in a new system coming off major injury in an inconsistent role and minute rotation.
He has been fantastic all things considered.
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He also gets rolled through by basic bigs. Like the disruption is nice when it happens but I need you to be either fast enough to guard wings well or hold up against bigs. Nathan Knight scored over and through him like he was nothing… it’s a regular occurrence.I think the idea of Vando is better than the reality of Vando. He gets lost on his defensive assignment a lot. He is not even close to an efficient scorer. Many people confuse activity with effectiveness, and Vando is a prime example of that. He is fine to hold onto, but if you can get prime assets for him, cashing in on that perception of Vando as an energy/hustle guy that does the "little things", then you take it and run.
It is absolutely common knowledge that Collins wants out, Speculation is Collins is a little crybaby that got outplayed by his teammates, and has been sent to the corner literally where he is averaging scrub player %'s ,and would never see the floor at all if he wasn't owed so much ****ing salary. Now he might be a little sweetheart now that his balls are all shruk up from dosing, but he is a bum getting paid like a real man. this fanbase needs to wake the f upI don't disagree with you. I don't think JC was the problem and he's unfairly gotten a bad rep for being "unhappy". But it's been a well known discussion point for years.