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Trump removed from 2024 ballot in Maine (this one is real)

Oh good. We definitely needed another thread about this!

I bet the new evidence and amazingly well thought out arguments Al will make here will definitely convince the majority of us that Trump didn’t attempt a coup on live TV on Jan 6, 2021.
 
I really liked President Obama. I want him to be president in 2025. The constitution says that he can’t run again because he’s already served two terms. But he should be able to cuz rules shouldn’t apply and it would be politically popular to let him run again.

Let the people decide!

/s

Listen folks, the majority of Americans believe Trump committed an insurrection. Trump also believes he did, because he’s doing everything possible to postpone these trials instead of expediting them. Most Americans want the constitution to be enforced. Now true, the cult will burn hotter and brighter if Trump isn’t allowed on ballots. But the rest of us want the rules to be followed and in this country, the constitution rules.

Not following the constitution does four things:

1. Deflates the majority of us and our belief in the constitution. Our trust in the constitution is based in our belief that it applies to all, no matter how rich or loud you are. Don’t our feelings matter? Or does just the cult’s?
2. Renders the constitution moot. Why follow any rules then? What’s stopping Obama from running? What’s stopping Trump from becoming a dictator and leaving the executive to Ivanka when he dies? What’s stopping Putin from just declaring himself leader of the United States? Rules don’t matter anymore!
3. Opens the door for chaos. Why? Because if Trump can successfully postpone the trials then he can pardon himself if he wins. And if he loses, His House can just reject the election results. Is this really what we want?
4. Emboldens fascists. We keep “fearing” that his cult will lash out if they don’t get their way. It’s actually the opposite. The more they get their way the more emboldened they become. It’s time to remind these folks who really is in charge of this country, and it’s not them. We are a nation of law and order.

If Trump didn’t want the Insurrection Act to be enforced, then he shouldn’t have committed insurrection. He should have left public office peacefully, just as every president prior had done. Trump did this to himself. Those of you on this board wouldn’t spoil your children. Why are you so willing to spoil our country because you feel like Donald shouldn’t have the rules applied to him?
 
The Thriller said:
He should have left public office peacefully, just as every president prior had done.
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He did. You have a weird recollection of history.

Joe Biden was sworn in peacefully on January 20 and moved in to the White House the moment he was supposed to without the military or law enforcement having to remove the previous occupant. Mitt Romney, Liz Chenney, and Mike Pence weren't hanged. Police Officers on January 6th weren't killed by flagpoles. You're one step shy of standing on a corner arguing as loud as you can with a mailbox wearing nothing but boxer shorts. Hey, are you okay?


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Huh. Why did Trump truth out her bio to his followers? I bet he’s definitely not trying to intimidate her or get her hurt. Trump is always altruistic. This is the mob boss communication he uses all the time. His followers know exactly what he wants.

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“We had an election in 2020 and yadda yadda yadda, Biden took office on Jan 20, 2021” is complete revisionist history. You know better. But you’re too ****** of a person to admit it. Your trolling has become such a bore. Every day now posters are calling you out. You’re a ****ing waste of time. **** you
 
The Thriller said:
“We had an election in 2020 and yadda yadda yadda, Biden took office on Jan 20, 2021” is complete revisionist history.
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That isn't revisionist history. Both of those things actually happened. We did have an election in 2020 and Biden did take office on January 20, 2021. Would you like to see news articles on both of those events or is all media in on the great conspiracy?

The things that didn't really happen, dear cuckoo bird, are:

The Thriller said:
Those beating the police up and killing them with flag poles are justified.
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The Thriller said:
Hanging and killing people like Pence, Romney, Cheney, Biden, etc is justified.
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The Thriller said:
He should have left public office peacefully, just as every president prior had done.
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Al-O-Meter said:
That isn't revisionist history. Both of those things actually happened. We did have an election in 2020 and Biden did take office on January 20, 2021. Would you like to see news articles on both of those events or is all media in on the great conspiracy?

The things that didn't really happen, dear cuckoo bird, are:
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The Thriller said:
Yep.

@Al-O-Meter is a piece of **** waste of time. This board gains nothing by allowing this lying sack stick around. People have tried working with him. Tried arguing in good faith with him. He just exists to lie and spin. He’s a waste of time.
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I 'm not sure he believes what he says. Doesn't bother me though.

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Trump is a tremendous POS but what Maine and Colorado have done feels extremely short-sighted and as if it’ll only martyr the man and incense his radical fanbase even more. Also, the legality of it all is very questionable. How much power should these idiots have that they can simply remove someone from a ballot? Is that the slippery slope we want to go down?
 
Keefe said:
Trump is a tremendous POS but what Maine and Colorado have done feels extremely short-sighted and as if it’ll only martyr the man and incense his radical fanbase even more. Also, the legality of it all is very questionable. How much power should these idiots have that they can simply remove someone from a ballot? Is that the slippery slope we want to go down?
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A. Trump can do whatever he wants then if we are worried about him being a martyr and worried about upsetting his base. Better drop all current indictments and never charge him with anything in the future no matter what he does as it might upset his base and make him a martyr. Also, you do realize that keeping trump on the ballot and him losing a fair election is only going to incense his radical fanbase even more since trump will definitely do a repeat of last time but probably take it even farther since he doesn't have any consequences in the scenario you want.

B. Can you provide an example of the slippery slope?

C. Wouldn't it also be a slippery slope to allow presidents to send in fake electors, pressure state officials to finding votes that dont exist, pressure the VP to not count the vote or simply count it in the favor of the losing candidate, lie about election fraud forever and ever, make stop the steal funds so he can steal from people, send angry mobs to attack the capitol in the hopes that it will shut down the electoral vote count and then sit around and watch and do nothing while the attack happens, say he would pardon the criminals, continue with the big lie, etc etc and then still be allowed to be president again? To me that is the slippery slope. If trump were to remain on the ballot and win the election then that sets a precedent that the president really can do whatever he wants with no consequences. Thats way worse than a horrible candidate not being on the ballot imo

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Keefe said:
Trump is a tremendous POS but what Maine and Colorado have done feels extremely short-sighted and as if it’ll only martyr the man and incense his radical fanbase even more. Also, the legality of it all is very questionable. How much power should these idiots have that they can simply remove someone from a ballot? Is that the slippery slope we want to go down?
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It’s literally their job to ensure that candidates on the ballot not be guilty of inciting insurrection. Why is this so controversial? If Obama or Clinton had done what Trump did, none of these clowns defending Trump would be defending Obama or Clinton. We all saw with our very eyes what Trump did following his November 2020 defeat.

If Trump is allowed to be on the ballot then he could win. He then could pardon himself and escape justice.

Now the argument is, then let’s have a trial. But we can’t, because Trump keeps delaying the trial. His hope is to choke out the clock so he can pardon himself/kill of the cases once he takes control of the DOJ.

This wouldn’t be a problem if:

1. Senate Republicans had fulfilled their duty. Instead, they didn’t want to tick off his base and lose the 2022 midterms (which they did anyway).
2. If GOP primary voters weren’t insane.
3. If a large segment of the population still had any trace of civic responsibility.
4. If enough Sec of State in key battleground states can leave him off the ballot. Which is required of them since enforcing the constitution should matter. If Trump is allowed to run then why shouldn’t Obama be allowed to run again? The same constitution that prevents Trump from being on the ballot because he incited an insurrection also prevents Obama from being on the ballot since he’s already served two terms. If the constitution doesn’t matter anymore then let’s be upfront and honest about it.

I don’t buy into the argument that his base will be emboldened if their candidate is left off the ballot. I find just the opposite. Appeasing these folks emboldens them. Appeasement is how fascists takeover. True Americans should stand up for their constitution.
 
@Keefe i think people like you are being played.

When Trump was president we couldn’t prosecute him because he was president. At least, that’s what Republicans said.

When he stopped being president, republicans told us to refrain from prosecuting him since he was out of office. Just let him go away and let’s move on.

But he refused to go away. Now that he’s back and we’re prosecuting him for the crimes he clearly committed (incited an insurrection, attempted to steal the election in GA, and kept documents in Florida) we’re told by Republicans that this is election interference.

But if he wins, he can and will commit judicial interference by killing the investigations against him.

Keeping him off the ballot is one of the few legal things our system provides to keep this wannabe autocrat and criminal out of power since his party has decided to do everything in their power to keep him in power and influence.

Don’t you see how you’re being played by the worst actors in America? These people don’t care about American rule and law. They merely care about keeping their boy in power.
 
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