Turkish Tweets Need Translating (Al Jefferson - Joakim Noah)

[billyshelby]

The Bulls' biggest problem was revealed in the 2011 Easter Conference Finals: they don't have a second option who can consistently create his own shot. Al could give them that. Plus, with Rose reportedly going to miss most of the 12-13 regular season, maybe the Chicago FO feels they need more scoring for the start of the season. I can sorta see why they would do this.

As far as the Jazz are concerned, I think I would be in favor of this. We would likely miss out on a chance to sign Harden, but a Noah/Favors combo would secure our front court for at least the next four years. Then, if Kanter develops into the player many of us believe he can, Favors/Kanter/Noah just sounds too good to be true.

I doubt this actually happens, but it would have me excited if it did.

Thib is a genius, but he can't design a defense that will allow Booze and Al to play on the court for 30 minutes together and win. That said, maybe the Bulls would give him the leverage to bring Boozer off the bench because they plan to amnesty him the following season. That's a wrinkle I hadn't thought about. Then they drop Booze and Al off the payroll and start anew with big cap space around Rose. Still don't see it as realistic but it's a riff.

 

[spycam1]

Thib is a genius, but he can't design a defense that will allow Booze and Al to play on the court for 30 minutes together and win. That said, maybe the Bulls would give him the leverage to bring Boozer off the bench because they plan to amnesty him the following season. That's a wrinkle I hadn't thought about. Then they drop Booze and Al off the payroll and start anew with big cap space around Rose. Still don't see it as realistic but it's a riff.

Exactly. There's more of an angle to this from Chicago's perspective than at first glance. It's still a little far-fetched, but it's far from the most ridiculous trade rumor I've heard.

 

[TheSilencer1313]

Holy @*^@

Carlos Boozer and Al Jefferson. That's going to be the most hilarious defensive frontcourt in the NBA.

They'd be a killer offensive combo for the Bulls though.

 

[Sneakers]

We have plenty of people who can score sans Jeff... Both Williams, G-Time, Burx, Millsap.

My only issue would be Noah's chronic injury history. And also cap implications that I'm not yet aware of

 

[TheSilencer1313]

Forget this trade though.
Noah is way high priced.
For all we know, Favors is going to be good enough that we have to offer him a Noah-like contract down the line.

 

[billyshelby]

Forget this trade though.
Noah is way high priced.
For all we know, Favors is going to be good enough that we have to offer him a Noah-like contract down the line.

Favors is a MAX player. It's only a matter of when. He's light years better than Hibbert, for example, and we'll eventually have to sign him to that type of deal whether it's premature or not. But Noah is peanuts to Favors.

 

[spycam1]

Favors is a MAX player. It's only a matter of when. He's light years better than Hibbert, for example, and we'll eventually have to sign him to that type of deal whether it's premature or not. But Noah is peanuts to Favors.

Totally agree. Kanter is the hardest one to predict. Though, I have a good deal of faith in him.

 

[Witty Username]

As a basketball trade I like it. Noah is scrappy and I don't even think has that bad of offensive capability. But from a semantics standpoint, I question his character. This is a guy that's crossed the line a few times in sounding off on basketball cities (look up what he thinks of Cleveland). Who knows, maybe he has the professional attitude to bring to Utah but I doubt it.

 

[orangello]

As a basketball trade I like it. Noah is scrappy and I don't even think has that bad of offensive capability. But from a semantics standpoint, I question his character. This is a guy that's crossed the line a few times in sounding off on basketball cities (look up what he thinks of Cleveland). Who knows, maybe he has the professional attitude to bring to Utah but I doubt it.

That is what I like about Noah.

 

[spycam1]

As a basketball trade I like it. Noah is scrappy and I don't even think has that bad of offensive capability. But from a semantics standpoint, I question his character. This is a guy that's crossed the line a few times in sounding off on basketball cities (look up what he thinks of Cleveland). Who knows, maybe he has the professional attitude to bring to Utah but I doubt it.

Every team needs a crazy guy, right?

 

[cctrackstar]

How does trading a 'seven footer' for a 'seven footer' do anything to help loosen up the overload in the post? How does it get Kanter 'the future' any more time on the court, unless it's because Noah gets hurt all the time.

I get the whole defense thing, and that makes sense, but I would really rather get high lottery picks for Al than another player who will get in the way of our core's development.

 

[Stifle Tower]

Jazz would be dumb to do this. Taking on Noah's contract is just plain stupid. How are we going to sign our guys if we are paying Noah 14 million a year. The guy can't score on a lamppost. Sure he hustles and plays decent defense but there is no way he is worth his contract. It would be like having AK back. The Jazz can get a better deal financially than this trade.

Exactly.
Noah is a 10/10 player in 30+ mins at an outrageous salary. If we want that kind of production, let's just play our 3rd round pick from last season...you know, that Turkish guy? I think Enes could give us at least 10/10 as a full-time player. And he's a helluva lot cheaper.

I wouldn't even do this deal for Noah AND a 1st round pick. WORST CASE scenario is Al and Paul play the full year and KOC/Lindsey can't make a deal at the deadline for the one they don't want to re-sign next summer. So what? That gives the Jazz money to go out and pick up a FA (or two) in the $7-8M range. A lot of teams, having gorged themselves on over-priced players already, will only have the mid-level to offer. Utah is poised to make a pretty good run at quality players. And Noah at $13M-$14M isn't one of them.

Don't forget Utah will likely have two firsts. Jazz can easily find a big to assume Kanters old role (10 mins off the bench). Besides, I think a Millsap/Favors/Kanter lineup is better-balanced than Noah/Favors/Kanter. Perhaps if Noah was a DPOY candidate, but he's not. He's a solid rebounder, poor scorer and a non shot-blocker. He does intimidate just with his looks; I'll give him that.