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Utes 2011 Football Discussion

Let's say the O/U for Ute wins next year was 8, what would you Utah fans take? I'm very curious. And will hold you to it if I decide to go in the direction of the masses. I'm guessing most will say the over not only because of how strong you're team coming back is (supposedly) but also because Barkley's likely bolting SC and Luck from Stanford.
 
jazzman12 said:
A few of the Bowl "experts" out there are projecting Utah in the Alamo Bowl against Oklahoma. A couple of thoughts on that:

-How amazing is it that in a year in which Utah starts out 0-and-4 in conference, they still may end up in the Pac's 2nd highest bowl (in terms of payout) against a premier national power?

and...

-Oklahoma would be a nightmare match-up for Utah.
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The Alamo Bowl has a higher payout than the Holiday?
 
SalmonHobo said:
Let's say the O/U for Ute wins next year was 8, what would you Utah fans take? I'm very curious. And will hold you to it if I decide to go in the direction of the masses. I'm guessing most will say the over not only because of how strong you're team coming back is (supposedly) but also because Barkley's likely bolting SC and Luck from Stanford.
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Over. Utah will be much better next year, and (as you pointed out) several current PAC 12 heavy hitters will be losing major pieces.

Considering that Utah should win at least 8 games this year, next year should almost certainly be better.
 
SaltyDawg said:
Over. Utah will be much better next year, and (as you pointed out) several current PAC 12 heavy hitters will be losing major pieces.

Considering that Utah should win at least 8 games this year, next year should almost certainly be better.
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What about at 9??? I doubt it will be that high simply because they may not get the love they (supposedly) deserve but still, what if?
 
SalmonHobo said:
What about at 9??? I doubt it will be that high simply because they may not get the love they (supposedly) deserve but still, what if?
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I don't know. I fully expect Utah to be significantly better next season. There has to be an increase in wins when going from a horrible offense to (at least) a decent offense, while returning a top notch defense. I am not sure what number I'd put on it yet though. Ask me again in the summer when I know who is all returning on each team, and what is happening with all the coaches.
 
catratcho said:
The Alamo Bowl has a higher payout than the Holiday?
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Yes. I found that out today and was rather suprised. I guess this is the first year that the Alamo Bowl ranks higher than the Holiday Bowl for the Pac12 (according to what they were saying on the radio). I guess the Alamo payout is about $3 million and the Holiday is about $2 million.

And to answer Salmon's question on the over/under for next year: Go back in the Utah/BYU preseason prediction thread and I had the Utes finishing at 8-and-4, so I wouldn't consider myself a blind Ute homer who felt like they were going to take the PAC by storm in year 1. With that being said, I strongly feel that Utah will be fielding a 10 win team next season. Of course spring/fall injuries could change the outlook before the season starts, but as it sits now, I expect Utah to give USC a very good battle for the PAC12 South next year. It's also huge that USC will be coming to SLC. With a little luck maybe Utah can get them up on the hill in late November.
 
CONAN said:
Rumors say Rich Rodriguez to Arizona. What say ye?
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I think I read today that his record at West Virginia was something like 60-and-26. While that's obviously a nice winning %, it's not exactly like he had a ton of competition in the Big East. IMO he was given enough time at Michigan and left the Wolverine program worse than before he got there. I was more worried about the possibility of Mike Leach landing in Zona, but I suppose he'll still be a target for UCLA and Arizona State should either of those schools decide to fire their Coach.

I'd have to register it as a big "meh" of a hire.
 
SalmonHobo said:
What about at 9??? I doubt it will be that high simply because they may not get the love they (supposedly) deserve but still, what if?
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I'm going over 9 and saying 10 wins. Honestly we should be favored to win the South, and we have USC at home. I don't think it's that crazy of a statement to say that we'll go 10-2 next year.
 
Utah will have a tougher schedule next year.. consider that..

They will have the rotation of the schedule so they will have Oregon/Stanford on the schedule. Stanford isn't as big of a deal as Oregon is.. thats almost a guaranteed loss IMO.
 
bat said:
Cal is a 5 point dog to Az State right now in most polls, guess we need another upset.
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ASU has been trending downward, sharply, but Cal is so bipolar as to ruin any good vibe for this game. I'm just crossing my fingers that Maynard has his **** together. Cal can be tough when he does.
 
Cope said:
Utah will have a tougher schedule next year.. consider that..

They will have the rotation of the schedule so they will have Oregon/Stanford on the schedule. Stanford isn't as big of a deal as Oregon is.. thats almost a guaranteed loss IMO.
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No they don't. They play the same conference teams as this season, but in the other stadium. The rotations are every other year, not every year.

I don't know that Stanford or Oregon will be better than Utah next year anyway. It's way too early to say either one will be better than Utah.
 
Cope said:
Utah will have a tougher schedule next year.. consider that..

They will have the rotation of the schedule so they will have Oregon/Stanford on the schedule. Stanford isn't as big of a deal as Oregon is.. thats almost a guaranteed loss IMO.
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They will have to play Oregon and Stanford, but both will be losing key players and we don't know yet where they will be played. Honestly I don't think the schedule will be any harder next year than this year. I actually think Washington will be a better team next year than Stanford. The non conference is Utah State and BYU, with the 3rd probably being another Division II team so no worries there.

Again, I don't think it's a stretch to say the Utes will go 10-2 next year.
 
Actually I didn't realize it was a 2 year rotation. If that's the case, Utah has an easier schedule next year with USC coming to Rice Eccles and the 3 non conference games will be easy wins.
 
fatchipper said:
Actually I didn't realize it was a 2 year rotation. If that's the case, Utah has an easier schedule next year with USC coming to Rice Eccles and the 3 non conference games will be easy wins.
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Totally agreed. The only reason I didn't go out on a limb and predict 10 wins (or better) is because of possible injuries, coaching changes, NFL draft declarations, and other such events that could change the season.

Barring any of that though, Utah should be the favorite for the whole conference, not just the division.
 
12-0. National champs. Bronco does a bank commercial making light of 54-10, and then gets beat 54-10 again. Book it.
 
fatchipper said:
Actually I didn't realize it was a 2 year rotation. If that's the case, Utah has an easier schedule next year with USC coming to Rice Eccles and the 3 non conference games will be easy wins.
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As of right now, I think Utah only has 2 non conference games scheduled for next year (BYU and Utah St). I'm curious to see if Utah tries to schedule an early season showdown between a high profile school from another BCS conference. Oklahoma and Va Tech still have some open dates early in the season........
 
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