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Wes Mathews or Gordon Hayward

Wes did a good job last year for us during the playoffs. Could Gordon Hayward be a 20 point a night scorer or did it have more to do with the teams we were playing, his minutes, and his touches. I seem to remember that Wes didn't really need to dominate the ball last year for us to get his points.

Wesley, don't call me Wes, averaged 13 PPG on 39% shooting (36% from the 3) in 37 MPG. He did some other things well but did not shoot well.
 
Wesley, don't call me Wes, averaged 13 PPG on 39% shooting (36% from the 3) in 37 MPG. He did some other things well but did not shoot well.

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Wes did a good job last year for us during the playoffs. Could Gordon Hayward be a 20 point a night scorer or did it have more to do with the teams we were playing, his minutes, and his touches. I seem to remember that Wes didn't really need to dominate the ball last year for us to get his points.

I would say his performance against the Lakers is going to be somewhat indicative of what he might do in the future. That was hardly a team rolling over. Hayward slapped them around. Jackson's comment after that game was priceless.
 
I would say his performance against the Lakers is going to be somewhat indicative of what he might do in the future. That was hardly a team rolling over. Hayward slapped them around. Jackson's comment after that game was priceless.

what was the comment? I don't think I caught that one.
 
all this talk .. would you trade the Jazz's 2nd pick (#12) for WMatthews and Portland's pick(#21)?

hell no. You have a chance to get a starter with the 12th pick, and those chances go down considerably at 21. Plus you have to give up a player to make the salaries match (let's say CJ, who, by himself would likely net us a late-first round pick). And, you're doing all of this for a guy that is likely approaching his ceiling and would probably be Hayward's backup.

I'd take Wes back, but only if Portland was interested in Memo's expiring and would send Wes and a pick. Or, via some random three-team swap wherein we send out less than you've proposed.
 
Wes did a good job last year for us during the playoffs. Could Gordon Hayward be a 20 point a night scorer or did it have more to do with the teams we were playing, his minutes, and his touches. I seem to remember that Wes didn't really need to dominate the ball last year for us to get his points.

I am 99% sure you're a parody poster....it's the only explanation.
 
KOC BEGONE Be gone.
Not really.... but really.
Unicorns and Pegasi, although they will make our team better.... will not make our team better.
 
I would say his performance against the Lakers is going to be somewhat indicative of what he might do in the future. That was hardly a team rolling over. Hayward slapped them around. Jackson's comment after that game was priceless.

QUOTABLE: "I wish Gordon Hayward would have stayed in college and helped Butler last night instead of kicking our butts tonight. Geez."
-- Lakers coach Phil Jackson on the play of the rookie.

https://www.nba.com/2011/news/game.recap/04/05/jazz.lakers/

Loved it. As always with Phil I think it was a mind job on his players, basically reminding them that a rookie (who could have still been in college this year) just kicked their asses. Still a great quote.
 
Smoking if you don't remember Wes was a key contributor last year from the first game he played. I didn't take him until the last month of the season to have three good games. Wes played great D. So, in comparison who would you rather have?

Wes Matthews played 4 years of college basketball, Hayward did not.
 
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