IDK, on the surface yes Kas is a better athlete, but the defensive stuff tells me Kon has more "functional" athleticism.I think Kas is a better athlete than Kon, but Kon is a higher IQ player than Kas.
IDK, on the surface yes Kas is a better athlete, but the defensive stuff tells me Kon has more "functional" athleticism.I think Kas is a better athlete than Kon, but Kon is a higher IQ player than Kas.
Kas was as two faced as any player and its left me completely confused. He was awesome early and awful late. There was an injury. It wouldn't surprise me if he lands in the 10-14 range and is the obvious gem (with hindsight) and some team got a steal.
Like I would feel better about him than Fears... wouldn't surprise me if either guy all of a sudden pops in the right situation and I'm sad.We can't know how much the injury really affected him...but he really did have two different seasons and it would be a huge coincidence if it just played out that way randomly before and after the injury. I don't believe he really is a 40%+ 3 point shooter off on strictly pullups and stepbacks like was though.
Somewhat related, I found kind of funny/interesting that Kas is 1% in spot up frequency. Seems impossible for a guard to be that way, but it does speak to the fact that a huge portion of his offense was self created. His high efficiency/self creation combo is only rivaled by Harper in this class.
Kas was a much better rebounder and about the same on stocks. I'm not sure what defensive stuff you are referring to, but for any advanced numbers you have to take in to consideration that Kon played next to great defenders and played against worse players than Kas.IDK, on the surface yes Kas is a better athlete, but the defensive stuff tells me Kon has more "functional" athleticism.
Like I would feel better about him than Fears... wouldn't surprise me if either guy all of a sudden pops in the right situation and I'm sad.
I mean, Kas was on a loaded team with great defenders as well.Kas was a much better rebounder and about the same on stocks. I'm not sure what defensive stuff you are referring to, but for any advanced numbers you have to take in to consideration that Kon played next to great defenders and played against worse players than Kas.
Kas is a better functional athlete, I'm pretty comfortable with that take.
I know you aren't dumb enough to think that Kas's Illinois teammates are in the same league as defenders as Kon's Duke teammates.I mean, Kas was on a loaded team with great defenders as well.
I am not a big draft analyst but I like Kasparas Jakucionis more than anyone being projected at #5 and want to know what others think.
I think he has a good aggression, playmaking, and shooting skills. I think he is going to be much better in the NBA game with spaced floors and foul calls. I think he is will be a star and is the type of player you can win championships with because he will make others better.
I would probably have him #3 on my board. Thoughts? Where would you take him?
Kofi went to Illinois. Wasn't he all world?I know you aren't dumb enough to think that Kas's Illinois teammates are in the same league as defenders as Kon's Duke teammates.
lol, we're talking about last year's teams.Kofi went to Illinois. Wasn't he all world?
Not saying they were, but they were still a very good and deep team with a stretch 5 who could rim protect.I know you aren't dumb enough to think that Kas's Illinois teammates are in the same league as defenders as Kon's Duke teammates.
You are just saying stuff to say stuff then.Not saying they were, but they were still a very good and deep team with a stretch 5 who could rim protect.
Well you brought up rebounding, but we arent going to act like it's harder to stack rebounding numbers on Duke vs Illinois?You are just saying stuff to say stuff then.
My point was any comparison of Kas's and Kon's advanced defensive numbers should take in to consideration that Kon played with better defenders and against worse competition. I don't think you would disagree with that.
To be honest, I'm still not sure what you mean by Kon's defensive stuff, so maybe my comment isn't relevant.
I have Kon and Kas just about even on my board. Depends on my mood.I prefer Kon if we are taking mediocre athlete/high IQ player. Trust Kon more as a shooter and defender and dont believe in Kasparas as a primary creator or scorer.
Kas was extremely two-faced as a defender. He had pretty solid stretches. But he definitely coasted if he thought the game was out-of-reach. The coasting is a problem in its own right, of course; but his ceiling is better than it can seem at times.Well you brought up rebounding, but we arent going to act like it's harder to stack rebounding numbers on Duke vs Illinois?
Kon just moves his feet better on defense. He can wall up and stay with players. Kas is a traffic cone.
Good point on taking the situations in context regarding the rebounding numbers, that should absolutely be considered.Well you brought up rebounding, but we arent going to act like it's harder to stack rebounding numbers on Duke vs Illinois?
Kon just moves his feet better on defense. He can wall up and stay with players. Kas is a traffic cone.
IDK, maybe I just caught some bad games. Kas is one of the players I watched a ton of early on then stopped watching as much later.Good point on taking the situations in context regarding the rebounding numbers, that should absolutely be considered.
Your comment about Kas being a traffic cone makes me feel like you have no idea what you are talking about, which I know isn't true.
He was really bad at screen navigation early on, but got much better as the year went on. He does get lost off ball, but I don't think it's often enough to be concerned about. He's really quite good at help and recover, which I think is a good way to see his athleticism. He's also a very good defensive rebounder.IDK, maybe I just caught some bad games. Kas is one of the players I watched a ton of early on then stopped watching as much later.