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What Jan Vesely?

Maybe it's just me, but I don't feel comfortable drafting a player with a girl's name. History shows they all become underachievers...Tracy, Sasha, Kelly, Penny, & Carlos.

Penny and Trace were pretty damn good for a while until injuries started taking their toll. Carlos is a woman's name? That has got be one butch woman.
 
Unless Vesley has some sort of skyrocketing stock I'll be mad if the Jazz pick him at 3. That being said, I wouldn't mind at all if they traded down to 6 or so to get him. I like his talent.

Seems like most people on this board underrate him and perhaps overrate Biyombo. Certainly in the eyes of most NBA scouts. This coming from the person whom I am almost positive was the first to mention Biyombo on this board. I just think Favors can be our defensive stopper and better to go for someone with a better offensive game.
 
God no. He dunks, and that's it? What position is he supposed to defend in the NBA? He's going to get eaten alive by the quickness of 3s and the strength of 4s. His handle is suspect, too, it seems, so his offense is going to come almost 100% from transition opportunities (and baseline cuts?). He's not an impact player in the NBA. I wouldn't pick him at 12.
 
God no. He dunks, and that's it? What position is he supposed to defend in the NBA? He's going to get eaten alive by the quickness of 3s and the strength of 4s. His handle is suspect, too, it seems, so his offense is going to come almost 100% from transition opportunities (and baseline cuts?). He's not an impact player in the NBA. I wouldn't pick him at 12.

You've seen enough of him to make this analysis? The fact that we are thinking about him at 3 doesnt tell you something?
 
I don't think Favors alone can be our defensive stopper. I think he's a clear notch above what we've had there for a while, but Bismack could be a huge boost. If we are going to try to make a real title run, then we need more than just one defensive stud.

Sap/Big Al + Favors/Bismack does make a lot of sense to me.
With those big men we'd have the scoring, and the defense/athleticism.
 
I don't think Favors alone can be our defensive stopper. I think he's a clear notch above what we've had there defensively since Eaton, but
Bismack could a huge boost. If we are going to try, and make a real title run we need more than just one defensive stud.

Sap/Big Al + Favors/Bismack does make a lot of sense to me.
With those big men we'd have the scoring, and the defense/athleticism.

I agree.
 
Draft Express on Vesely's defense:

Vesely often spearheads Partizan’s full-court press and sees minutes at the top of the key in the their triangle formation in the half-court as well, constantly harassing the ball-handler with his terrific size, length and athleticism, putting in a great effort, and coming up with plenty of blocks and steals in the process.
 
I think it's a bit unfair to call Vesely only a dunker. If you look at his stats, he is scoring 10-20 points in 10-20 minutes. He obviously has some sort of offensive IQ to get these easy baskets.
 
Jan Vesely seems like the European Blake Griffin, to me atleast, well Vesely is a better three-point shooter, but Griffin is a better free-throw shooter.
 
I think it's a bit unfair to call Vesely only a dunker. If you look at his stats, he is scoring 10-20 points in 10-20 minutes. He obviously has some sort of offensive IQ to get these easy baskets.

This season he averaged 10 points in 26 minutes. He is probably averaging more in the playoffs, but overall even the defensive center Jonas V outscores him radically on a per minutes basis.
 
What I do like about Vesley is that from all accounts he is a passionate player and gives a damn. Maybe I put too much stock into that, but to me it's an important trait. I don't think of myself as an AK basher, but there are times when it looks like he just doesn't care out there, or seems to care more about making a flashy pass than making the correct play.
 
What I do like about Vesley is that from all accounts he is a passionate player and gives a damn. Maybe I put too much stock into that, but to me it's an important trait. I don't think of myself as an AK basher, but there are times when (removed) he just doesn't care out there, or seems to care more about making a flashy pass than making the correct play.
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AK lost his fire. When he plays with passion, he's pretty good.
 
Vesely has his flaws, but his athleticism is top 1%. Personally, I look at him like Josh Smith. I'd definitely draft him 3 if I was sure he would be Josh Smith.
 
Fraschilla:
Vesely: You're looking at a high-level athlete. I hate to compare him to Tom Chambers, who is probably beloved in the state of Utah, but he's got that Tom Chambers flair about him. … This kid, what he is is, he's a very good athlete who plays with high energy. His skill level is not up to where his NBA athleticism is yet. And, at worst, he's like a Shawn Marion, Kirilenko-type, where you don't have to run plays for him, he'll just find plays to grab rebounds, get on the break and get some dunks, lobs behind the defense — he's what I call an energy guy. He's more of a power forward than he is a small forward. But quite frankly, in this draft, he might be among the big guys the best defensive prospect in the draft. The only guy I might say that would compare to him is Chris Singleton from Florida State. This kid can guard threes and fours in the NBA because of his athleticism. He's not going to give you a lot of offense early, but he's an energy player.

He plays some mean D AND dunks like a freak? Sign him up.

https://www.sltrib.com/sltrib/blogsjazznotes/51978211-62/story.csp
 
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