When Should the Jazz Stop Tanking?

[fishonjazz]

I am all for trying to get that pick back from OKC
Even a 9-14 lottery pick will get Jazz another young player
But what would OKC take? Offer them a choice of one of Jazz young players?
Who is expendable?
Williams, Collier, Flip, Hendricks, Brice, Kessler, etc?
Not Ace, not George, not Clayton etc.

Eh, after the kessler injury and trading away collins and sexton there probably is no need to give anything to okc to keep the pick. We can probably just keep it because we are not good enough to lose it at this point. If kessler was still healthy then I would want the jazz to explore this more.

 

[NUMBERICA]

The issue just keeps coming back to the original sin: we needed to actually, seriously tank for multiple seasons but only have done it once. But since we did half-*** tanking we got none of the benefit for basically the same amount of pain of non-stop tanking.

The way the Jazz should’ve played it out with mostly foresight but a little hindsight:
*‘22-‘23 they should’ve gutted the team by the start of the regular season and taken whatever swaps and 2nds they could get from the Lakers for Bogey, Beasley, Vando, Pat, and/or Clarkson (maybe even Snyder?) and tanked their absolute asses off.
*’23-‘24 they should’ve thrown serious offer sheets for Reeves (“max”) and Naz Reid then played it straight, get in the play-in, and convey the pick to OKC.
*’24-‘25 trade all the ****ing vets - Lauri, Reeves, Naz, whatever other vet(s), maybe Walker - and tank again.

They’d be coming into this season with at least a Thompson (if not Wemby), almost certainly significantly improved picks from the Wolves, a top-5 pick from last year, much improved draft asset portfolio, and even better position for a high draft pick this year even if they were trying in earnest to win (they’d have a type of super-swap and the Wolves would probably be closer to collapse than they are now).

 

[Park Bites]

Eh, after the kessler injury and trading away collins and sexton there probably is no need to give anything to okc to keep the pick. We can probably just keep it because we are not good enough to lose it at this point. If kessler was still healthy then I would want the jazz to explore this more.

I concur and wonder if the Jazz hinted at him getting the surgery, as apparently he has suffered with this since college. Keep the organic tank alive. I would like to see more of Cody I still think he will be a serviceable player. I am surprised Sensabaugh is not getting a lot of playing time.

I know a lot of you are Svi fans, persoanlly, I cant stand him. I would rather see Sensabaugh. Kyle Anderson should never see the floor also. Let the young guys learn and play. You learn very little getting splinters in your backside.

 

[hgb]

I am all for trying to get that pick back from OKC
Even a 9-14 lottery pick will get Jazz another young player
But what would OKC take? Offer them a choice of one of Jazz young players?
Who is expendable?
Williams, Collier, Flip, Hendricks, Brice, Kessler, etc?
Not Ace, not George, not Clayton etc.

I was all for trading for the pick before the injury, but now it doesn't look great for winning games even if they tried real hard. Don't think it's worth it now (I'd give up Brice, maybe Collier, though, not the others).

 

[default]

I want to say after this season, but only if Bailey shows a lot more than he has so far in limited minutes and if we get one of Peterson, Dybantsa, or Boozer in the draft. Otherwise we need to continue until we get a young star in the making from the draft.

 

[Saint Cy of JFC]

A more interesting question is when the Jazz should start pushing chips in to compete, or at least consolidating what's on the roster to stronger players. But maybe you already made that poll question cuz you've made a lot of them.