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Which is a better team in 2 years time?

Which is a better team in 2 years time?

  • Team A

  • Team B

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The Midnight said:
Team A

SGA
Dort
Jalen Williams
Chet
Hartenstein


Team B

Keyonte
Ace Bailey
Markkanen
Jaren Jackson Jnr
Walker Kessler
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Except team a may not look like that in 2 years. Hartenstein and Dort have tream options next year so they both will be free agents after that and they might loose both.


The season after 2years theu have another handful of players up for free agency.

So in my brain 2 years time is 2 full seasons. This season didn't count.

That means in the 2028-2029 season what tream will be better and if that jazz core is still there with a potential high pick this year. A decent pick next year. OKC losing both Dort and Hart.

Development from Ace, George and Kessler I voted Jazz.
 
OKC will be a cash strapped team in 2 years with 3 players on max contracts a bunch of players hitting free agency who could be looking to get paid also. They will already have 2 or 3 rings.

I don't think it is as black and white as the 70% are saying.
 
Park Bites said:
Except team a may not look like that in 2 years. Hartenstein and Dort have tream options next year so they both will be free agents after that and they might loose both.


The season after 2years theu have another handful of players up for free agency.

So in my brain 2 years time is 2 full seasons. This season didn't count.

That means in the 2028-2029 season what tream will be better and if that jazz core is still there with a potential high pick this year. A decent pick next year. OKC losing both Dort and Hart.

Development from Ace, George and Kessler I voted Jazz.
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Good analysis.
 
Park Bites said:
OKC will be a cash strapped team in 2 years with 3 players on max contracts a bunch of players hitting free agency who could be looking to get paid also. They will already have 2 or 3 rings.

I don't think it is as black and white as the 70% are saying.
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The jazz could be in the exact same situation. What we know about the thunder is that they have the draft assets to continue to replenish their depth as guys come up for new contracts. Dort has maybe one more year but Wallace is waiting in the wings to take those minutes. It's a bummer for them that Thomas Sorber got injured but I do like him quite a bit as a prospect and they have the draft picks to continue swinging for new bigs. With all that being said I love the jazz future but the thunder are the proven commodity right now and they will still be really really good in 2 years. Maybe even better with Chet and Jalen in their primes with other good role players around them.
 
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Park Bites said:
OKC will be a cash strapped team in 2 years with 3 players on max contracts a bunch of players hitting free agency who could be looking to get paid also. They will already have 2 or 3 rings.

I don't think it is as black and white as the 70% are saying.
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Maybe not, but when you are only given 2 outcomes to choose from you're kind of forced to push every shade of gray into either black or white. Blame the game, not the player.

Also the question was which of 2 very specific teams will be better. It didn't say imagine every trajectory these teams can make and then give us the most favorable odds. It listed 5 specific players for each team. If OKC can keep that team together the entire time they are still very likely the better team.

But hey, maybe we can sign both Shae and Giannis next year, I mean, who knows right? Then we will win all the rings!
 
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sip said:
The jazz could be in the exact same situation. What we know about the thunder is that they have the draft assets to continue to replenish their depth as guys come up for new contracts. Dort has maybe one more year but Wallace is waiting in the wings to take those minutes. It's a bummer for them that Thomas Sorber got injured but I do like him quite a bit as a prospect and they have the draft links to continue swinging for new bigs. With all that being said I love the jazz future but the thunder are the proven commodity right now and they will still be really really good in 2 years. Maybe even better with Chet and Jalen in their primes with other good role players around them.
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This hits on a very important point, this OKC team is generationally good, while almost none of them are in their primes yet realistically. So in 2 years every single player will be even better. Plus we are very nearly cash-strapped with this team, especially once we sign Kessler, we are relying on rookie level contacts to put together a team that might compete. Their team is already there and likely to only get better over the next 2 years. Not sure what kind of blinders can see our team even close to their level in that short time frame.
 
Park Bites said:
Except team a may not look like that in 2 years. Hartenstein and Dort have tream options next year so they both will be free agents after that and they might loose both.


The season after 2years theu have another handful of players up for free agency.

So in my brain 2 years time is 2 full seasons. This season didn't count.

That means in the 2028-2029 season what tream will be better and if that jazz core is still there with a potential high pick this year. A decent pick next year. OKC losing both Dort and Hart.

Development from Ace, George and Kessler I voted Jazz.
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Maybe the OP should have asked us all to use our imaginations and maybe given us 8 options with 4 scenarios for each team. Instead he gave us 2 specific groups of players. I'm betting most people assumed those 5 being together for each group in 2 years was at least a reasonably likely scenario and didn't dream up all the iterations that might happen, since that wasn't the scenario given. But yeah if we imagine the jazz signing all the mvps still playing on the league and striking gold with #1 picks the next 2 years, then there's no way we can't win!
 
LogGrad98 said:
This hits on a very important point, this OKC team is generationally good, while almost none of them are in their primes yet realistically.
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Are they generationally good? Like Jordan's Bulls, threepeat Lakers, Prime Spurs, or Prime Warriors good? I don't know. They have a lot of work to do.

I do know that the NBA, as a whole is not as good as it was during most of those periods. Maybe the overall player may be a bit better, the top layer of teams is not. The East is straight up trash historically and the East champion took OKC to 7 games. The really good players in the league right now are all on flawed teams. Houston has home court advantage in the West, and they aren't all that great. None of the teams in the West scare me to the point of thinking we can't compete with them next year.

It could be that OKC is among the greatest, but it could be that they are inferior to their previous team that couldn't get into the finals. We don't know yet. There just aren't the teams out there to challenge them thus far.
 
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