Who will have the better record this season...BYU or Utah?
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Chad Feldheimer
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8-4 sounds about right for BYU. Their schedule is almost as bad as it was in the MWC.
6-5 is optimistic for Utah. I could see them going 5-6. I hope I am wrong though.
6-5 is optimistic for Utah. I could see them going 5-6. I hope I am wrong though.
Haha, that is rubbish. Utah is going 4-8, book that ****.
Chad Feldheimer
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That home schedule for BYU is embarrassing. Only the Utah game looks remotely competitive.
Beantown
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That sucks BYU will lose to a 4-8 team.
Gyp Rosetti
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Florida State.
Care to make a wager, Clown Shoes?
JohnStockalypse
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Neither will be as good as the BEARCATS!!!
fatchipper
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At least get the Utah schedule right if you're going to run this little poll.
Beantown
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Dont blame me, blame Desnews.
Beantown
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Lets do it fish ****.
7StraightIsGreat
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Bean, you do know Utah plays 12 games right?
I didn't vote for BYU because, well, because I refuse to but they will clearly have a better record than Utah due to scheduling. Thanks to BYU's more stable QB situation I would also say that BYU will probably be better overall than Utah (please hold while I throw up in my mouth a little). Ok, now that that's over with, a few more BYU-Utah predictions for the upcoming season:
-Utah could possibly have the better team if Jordan Wynn comes back truly healthy and if he shows he has a firm grasp of Chow's offense early on. Granted, those are some pretty big "if's", but if that indeed ended up being the case, I'd give Utah a slight nod as the better team. At this point it's almost a given that Utah will field better athletes across the board over BYU. Especially at skill positions such as WR's and CB's/Safeties. Even though Utah is going to be young in the defensive backfield, I'll take what they have over BYU in that area each and every time. I also think Utah has a better D-line rotation and with JD Williams hopefully healthy at LB, I think Utah wins in that area too. Blechen is a freak and I think the move to LB will prove to be a great one. Overall, I think Utah is "clearly" better than BYU defensively, the big question will be is if their offense can bridge the gap enough to make them the better overall team.
-I think Utah will lose @ BYU this year (but I'm still going to bet Trout). I HATE where this game is on the schedule for the UTES. Playing @USC a week earlier in their first ever Pac12 game sets the BYU game up to a be pretty tough one. Not to mention BYU gets Utah in their home opener. Even if BYU splits the first 2 games (even with Texas down, I don't see BYU winning there), coming home 1-and-1 is going to make the Utah game feel like a must win for the Cougs.
-With all that being said, I still wouldn't trade places with BYU. Even if Utah started the season 1-and-2 with losses to USC and BYU, there is still SOOO much more to play for. Utah could finish the season strong and gain a bid to the Holiday Bowl, which IMO would have to be considered a huge success during year 1 of Pac12 play. Hell, with USC on probation, Utah could lose to them and still have a chance to win the Pac12 South. In the end, I think if all things come together for Utah they can win 8 games. So my official prediction is 8-4 with a bowl victory.
-I think BYU will win 9 or 10 games, but so what? The instant BYU loses- even if it's as early as week 1 or 2, they then get to go the majority of the season knowing that no matter what they do, they'll be playing in the Armed Forces Bowl. The BCS is most likely never going to take a 1 loss BYU squad, so until BYU runs the table or finds a conference, that's what they're looking at. My guess is that unless Holmoe finds some serious Bowl upgrades to tie in with, BYU fans are going to get frustrated pretty quickly. I will be the first to say that the move to independence was the right one for BYU, and it looks like they're doing pretty good in getting some future big games on the schedule, but honestly, how much intrigue can a season hold when you know that the second your team loses a game, it's instantly a ticket to the Armed Forces Bowl?
I didn't vote for BYU because, well, because I refuse to but they will clearly have a better record than Utah due to scheduling. Thanks to BYU's more stable QB situation I would also say that BYU will probably be better overall than Utah (please hold while I throw up in my mouth a little). Ok, now that that's over with, a few more BYU-Utah predictions for the upcoming season:
-Utah could possibly have the better team if Jordan Wynn comes back truly healthy and if he shows he has a firm grasp of Chow's offense early on. Granted, those are some pretty big "if's", but if that indeed ended up being the case, I'd give Utah a slight nod as the better team. At this point it's almost a given that Utah will field better athletes across the board over BYU. Especially at skill positions such as WR's and CB's/Safeties. Even though Utah is going to be young in the defensive backfield, I'll take what they have over BYU in that area each and every time. I also think Utah has a better D-line rotation and with JD Williams hopefully healthy at LB, I think Utah wins in that area too. Blechen is a freak and I think the move to LB will prove to be a great one. Overall, I think Utah is "clearly" better than BYU defensively, the big question will be is if their offense can bridge the gap enough to make them the better overall team.
-I think Utah will lose @ BYU this year (but I'm still going to bet Trout). I HATE where this game is on the schedule for the UTES. Playing @USC a week earlier in their first ever Pac12 game sets the BYU game up to a be pretty tough one. Not to mention BYU gets Utah in their home opener. Even if BYU splits the first 2 games (even with Texas down, I don't see BYU winning there), coming home 1-and-1 is going to make the Utah game feel like a must win for the Cougs.
-With all that being said, I still wouldn't trade places with BYU. Even if Utah started the season 1-and-2 with losses to USC and BYU, there is still SOOO much more to play for. Utah could finish the season strong and gain a bid to the Holiday Bowl, which IMO would have to be considered a huge success during year 1 of Pac12 play. Hell, with USC on probation, Utah could lose to them and still have a chance to win the Pac12 South. In the end, I think if all things come together for Utah they can win 8 games. So my official prediction is 8-4 with a bowl victory.
-I think BYU will win 9 or 10 games, but so what? The instant BYU loses- even if it's as early as week 1 or 2, they then get to go the majority of the season knowing that no matter what they do, they'll be playing in the Armed Forces Bowl. The BCS is most likely never going to take a 1 loss BYU squad, so until BYU runs the table or finds a conference, that's what they're looking at. My guess is that unless Holmoe finds some serious Bowl upgrades to tie in with, BYU fans are going to get frustrated pretty quickly. I will be the first to say that the move to independence was the right one for BYU, and it looks like they're doing pretty good in getting some future big games on the schedule, but honestly, how much intrigue can a season hold when you know that the second your team loses a game, it's instantly a ticket to the Armed Forces Bowl?
Beantown
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Yea I fixed it
Chad Feldheimer
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I know I'd rather have Utah season tickets than BYU
Montana St, Washington, ASU, Oregon St, UCLA, Colorado is a pretty sweet home schedule.
Montana St, Washington, ASU, Oregon St, UCLA, Colorado is a pretty sweet home schedule.
7StraightIsGreat
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At first glance it's pretty easy, but I think there's a few potential problem games for BYU:
-Ole Miss is certainly not great, but opening on the road in SEC country is far from a gimme.
-Texas was awful last year. No way they're that bad 2 years in a row under Mack Brown. I don't see BYU winning that game.
-The Utah game. Rivalry games between these two are almost never easy as of late.
-Going back to Texas later in the year to play TCU could be a problem. I know Andy Dalton is gone, but TCU is going to have a better athlete at just about every position and regardless of how it's being billed,
the game is not at a "neutral" site.
-Playing the last game of the year in Hawaii can be a shaky proposition (ask Gary Crowton).
With that being said, those are the only 5 games that you can even entertain the idea of BYU losing. Should they drop a game to Idaho or San Jose State, Bronco should be dragged into the streets of Provo and stoned to death.
7StraightIsGreat
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"Booking" Utah to win only 4 games seems a bit silly. Granted, this could be a year in which Utah hovers around .500 but them losing 8 games is nothing more than your own personal wet dream.
And for the record, if you'd like to place an over/under wager on your 4 game prediction, I'd be more than willing to take you up on that.
SaltyDawg
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I think Utah beats BYU this year, but BYU may very well finish with the better record. I'm not going to say Utah is a .500 team this year or any nonsense like that. But if BYU is halfway decent, they could finish with 1 loss this year (lol, and we know to who).
If Jordan Wynn is 100% healthy, and he had/gets enough practice time to fully grasp the new offense, then Utah will finish with the better record. Utah definitely has more talent, and even better coaching. The only questions are is the new coaching staff going to mesh immediately or take time, and are the players healthy or do they need more time.
If Jordan Wynn is 100% healthy, and he had/gets enough practice time to fully grasp the new offense, then Utah will finish with the better record. Utah definitely has more talent, and even better coaching. The only questions are is the new coaching staff going to mesh immediately or take time, and are the players healthy or do they need more time.