So that explains the increasing crime rate in white neighborhoods, the supposed decline of family values.
Other than the fact crime in general has been decreasing in the past 20 years, I see your point.
Why is black crime so high?
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So that explains the increasing crime rate in white neighborhoods, the supposed decline of family values.
Other than the fact crime in general has been decreasing in the past 20 years, I see your point.
Always thought the difference was because southern white rednecks are too drunk to shoot straight to kill.
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GVC
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A few things worth pointing out:
1. The Civil Rights Act of 1964 and Voting Rights acts of 1965 were both passed within living memory. Jim Crow America simply wasn't that long ago.
2. Even the Emancipation Proclamation/Civil War wasn't all that long ago. Consider, prior the end of slavery, likely more than half of all slave children were forced to live without at least one of their parents (I can provide a link that has a smaller number than this, but the study is based on interviews from the 1930s. One should expect that selection would bias the summary statistics in favor of two-parent slave families, potentially by quite a lot). How long does it take to recover from hundreds of years of slavery? I honestly don't have an answer to this question.
3. Take a look at the Kenneth and Mamie Clark doll experiments (and more recent replications). It's absolutely ridiculous to claim that post-racial America exists. You simply can't ignore the historical/social context (and focus on only relative economic prosperity/poverty) if you want to understand the other continuing racial disparities in America.
1. The Civil Rights Act of 1964 and Voting Rights acts of 1965 were both passed within living memory. Jim Crow America simply wasn't that long ago.
2. Even the Emancipation Proclamation/Civil War wasn't all that long ago. Consider, prior the end of slavery, likely more than half of all slave children were forced to live without at least one of their parents (I can provide a link that has a smaller number than this, but the study is based on interviews from the 1930s. One should expect that selection would bias the summary statistics in favor of two-parent slave families, potentially by quite a lot). How long does it take to recover from hundreds of years of slavery? I honestly don't have an answer to this question.
3. Take a look at the Kenneth and Mamie Clark doll experiments (and more recent replications). It's absolutely ridiculous to claim that post-racial America exists. You simply can't ignore the historical/social context (and focus on only relative economic prosperity/poverty) if you want to understand the other continuing racial disparities in America.
GVC
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Yeah...large declines in crime over the past 20 years, and declines in Black incarceration rates for the last 10+ years (while white incarceration continues to increase).
The Blue Elephant
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Hmm pulled up the FBI table 43 from 2005. https://www2.fbi.gov/ucr/05cius/data/table_43.html
Almost identical murder rates for white/blacks as the previously posted.
GVC
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and? That doesn't contradict my post.
This is an excellent point regarding the unintended consequences of prohibition. We saw it during alcohol prohibition and we see it now during drug prohibition.
It's a large industry. But not one that allows disputes to be settled in the courts. If you have a competitor or supplier or customer that you feel has wronged you you cannot file suit against them, you pretty much have to resort to force. Often times that force will mean lethal force.
Jamezz
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At the same time we give black communities grants for college and people feed victimization among the blacks with things like Black History month and other ****z. Also, what's the ****in deal with profiling when applying for a job when they ask you to write down what your race is? It's **** like this that feeds racism imo.