Yes Means Yes law passed

[PearlWatson]

a good reason for this law - - better to have this guy realize that a "not sure" response means NO to lessen the risk he might be called a rapist

Now "not sure" means "no?"

OneBrow insists every woman's "not sure" means "yes."

Are these chicks too damn retarded to be able to say "no" if that's what they mean? I always figured "no" was one of a baby's first words and most of them use it often once they learn it.

You liberal feminists are trying to tell me adult-aged chicks need this law to protect them from their inability to say no. What kind of retards are you people sending to college?

 

[moevillini]

The men are the retards, Pearl, that's the main problem. Unless they just really want to be accused of rape, they'd better learn the difference.

I'm not sure why that's so difficult for you to understand.

 

[moevillini]

and the only thing that the bill aims to protect is the flow of state financial aid funds to California state universities...

maybe they don't teach the retards how to read where you grew up?

...The bill states that silence and a lack of resistance do not signify consent and that drugs or alcohol do not excuse unwanted sexual activity...


...Under California's bill, state-funded colleges and universities must adopt strict policies regarding sexual assault, domestic violence, dating violence and stalking, among other actions in order to receive financial aid money.

(from the first post in the thread)

 

[zbone]

Wouldn't work, because the lady can change her mind even after she signs. Why do some men feel like they should get to do anything they want, regardless of the lady's current preference?

Can she change her mind after penetration? What about after ejaculation? Where is the cut-over point?

 

[One Brow]

Are these chicks too damn retarded to be able to say "no" if that's what they mean? I always figured "no" was one of a baby's first words and most of them use it often once they learn it.

I'm glad for you that you've never needed to unlearn it. I would hope you would exhibit a little empathy for those who have.

I regularly read stories about women who say "no" at parties, on bus stations, at conventions, etc., who are them subjected to a string of profanities and occasionally physical threats. After that happens a few times, people learn that saying "no" outright can be a very dangerous thing if you are a woman, so you try to passively discourage men without being forthright.

 

[One Brow]

Can she change her mind after penetration? What about after ejaculation? Where is the cut-over point?

Are you asking me at what point you have the right to stick your genitals in someone's body, regardless of whether they want it in there or not?

 

[PearlWatson]

Under California's bill, state-funded colleges and universities must adopt strict policies regarding sexual assault, domestic violence, dating violence and stalking, among other actions in order to receive financial aid money.

If "strict policies" include no due process for the accused that's horrible policy coming from flawed data.

No way college "tribunals" should replace real police work and proper prosecution.

 

[PearlWatson]

I'm glad for you that you've never needed to unlearn it. I would hope you would exhibit a little empathy for those who have.

I regularly read stories about women who say "no" at parties, on bus stations, at conventions, etc., who are them subjected to a string of profanities and occasionally physical threats. After that happens a few times, people learn that saying "no" outright can be a very dangerous thing if you are a woman, so you try to passively discourage men without being forthright.

NO, the dangerous thing is not making it crystal clear to aggressive asses that their advances are unwanted and not reporting their threats to the police.

 

[LogGrad98]

Are you asking me at what point you have the right to stick your genitals in someone's body, regardless of whether they want it in there or not?

touching - making out - foreplay - initial penetration - intercourse - ejaculation - withdrawal

yes yes yes yes yes yes yes yes yes no
yes yes yes yes yes no
yes yes yes yes yes yes yes yes yes yes yes yes yes no
yes yes yes yes yes yes yes yes no
yes yes yes yes yes yes yes yes yes yes yes yes yes yes yes yes yes no

I think the question is where along this continuum can the yes turn to a no and still be considered actual consent or does it automatically become rape no matter where it falls.

 

[JAZZGASM]

touching - making out - foreplay - initial penetration - intercourse - ejaculation - withdrawal

yes yes yes yes yes yes yes yes yes no
yes yes yes yes yes no
yes yes yes yes yes yes yes yes yes yes yes yes yes no
yes yes yes yes yes yes yes yes no
yes yes yes yes yes yes yes yes yes yes yes yes yes yes yes yes yes no

I think the question is where along this continuum can the yes turn to a no and still be considered actual consent or does it automatically become rape no matter where it falls.

Once they say no, get out da hole.

 

[One Brow]

If "strict policies" include no due process for the accused that's horrible policy coming from flawed data.

No way college "tribunals" should replace real police work and proper prosecution.

I agree completely. For generations, colleges have been hushing things up and preventing real police work and proper prosecution, and it's time they stopped.

 

[One Brow]

NO, the dangerous thing is not making it crystal clear to aggressive asses that their advances are unwanted and not reporting their threats to the police.

So, no empathy at all for the woman at the bus station, who is having invectives and threats screamed at her. Next time she is approached, she should just accept that she might get screamed at or threatened again. You really think waiting absorbing 10-20 mintues of abuse waiting for the police (especially when the bus is due in 5) is the answer? Do you just not care, as long as you think you can support your view?